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    21 Oct '07 02:23
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    Kc3

    Edit: wins
    2...Ke2 beat that
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    21 Oct '07 02:25
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    2...Ke2 beat that
    Bb5+ Ke3 Bg5+ wins
    just give it up, I've beaten you at a game we aren't even playing.
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    21 Oct '07 02:312 edits
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    Bb5+ Ke3 Bg5+ wins
    just give it up, I've beaten you at a game we aren't even playing.
    except for ...Kf3 instead of ...Ke3 and I've drawn you at a game we aren't even playing.
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    21 Oct '07 02:34
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    except for ...Kf3 instead of ...Ke3 and I've drawn you at a game we aren't even playing.
    Kxd2 and I'm still winning this game we aren't playing...
    are you trying to argue that white can not mate with two bishops? because he can!
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    21 Oct '07 02:382 edits
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    Kxd2 and I'm still winning this game we aren't playing...
    are you trying to argue that white can not mate with two bishops? because he can!
    this is before Kc3 okay here is the full line

    1.Kb4 Ke1 2.Bh4+ Ke2 3.Bb5+ Kf3 4.Ba4-c6+ Ke2 DRAWN.

    Whites best first move is 1.Bd7! but I already gave the draw for that.
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    21 Oct '07 02:43
    correct solution [white win] king to a6!-----------😛😉
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    21 Oct '07 02:44
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    this is before Kc3 okay here is the full line

    1.Kb4 Ke1 2.Bh4+ Ke2 3.Bb5+ Kf3 4.Ba4-c6+ Ke2 DRAWN.

    Whites best first move is 1.Bd7!
    3. ... Kf3 4. Be8!! and black can not promote because of the skewer
    so, 4. ... Ke2 5. Kc3!! and black still cannot promote!! I WIN DAMNIT!!

    as a memo to my huge arse brain, I am doing this with no computer, just the analyze board as offered on this site.
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    21 Oct '07 02:461 edit
    This is interesting... just For everyone's info.. Ka6 wins..

    I think it's the only win too... maybe not.

    1. Ka6 Ke1 2. Ba5 Kd1 3. Bb4 Kc1 4. Ba3+ Kd1 5. Bb5 Ke1 6. Bb4 Kd1 7. Bd3 Kc1 8. Ba3+ Kd1 9. Kb5 Ke1 Bb4 Kd1 11. Kc4 Ke1 12. Kd4 Kd1 13. Ke3 Kc1 14. Bxd2+ Kd1 15. Bc3 Kc1 16. Be4 Kd1 17. Kd3 Kc1 18. Bd5 Kb1 19. Be5
    Kc1 20. Bd6 Kd1 21. Bg3 Kc1 22. Kc3 Kd1 23.
    Bf3+ Kc1 24. Bf4+ Kb1 25. Bd5 Ka1 26. Kb3 Kb1
    27. Be4+ Ka1 28. Be5 mate.

    Seems that there is numerous ways to do this... but Ka6 must be played.

    by the way... i shouldn't get credit for this.. Fritz should 🙂. I just found the first move.. which, in my defense is the hardest one 🙂.
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    21 Oct '07 02:47
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    3. ... Kf3 4. Be8!! and black can not promote because of the skewer
    so, 4. ... Ke2 5. Kc3!! and black still cannot promote!! I WIN DAMNIT!!

    as a memo to my huge arse brain, I am doing this with no computer, just the analyze board as offered on this site.
    4.Be8? Kg4!
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    21 Oct '07 02:481 edit
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    4.Be8? Kg4!
    ok, let's back up, you are right...
    Bf2 does nothing...
    s Ka6 is indeed the winning move, allowing the bishop to get to a5
    white still wins
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    21 Oct '07 02:49
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    This is interesting... just For everyone's info.. Ka6 wins..

    I think it's the only win too... maybe not.

    1. Ka6 Ke1 2. Ba5 Kd1 3. Bb4 Kc1 4. Ba3+ Kd1 5. Bb5 Ke1 6. Bb4 Kd1 7. Bd3 Kc1 8. Ba3+ Kd1 9. Kb5 Ke1 Bb4 Kd1 11. Kc4 Ke1 12. Kd4 Kd1 13. Ke3 Kc1 14. Bxd2+ Kd1 15. Bc3 Kc1 16. Be4 Kd1 17. Kd3 Kc1 18. Bd5 Kb1 19. Be5
    Kc ...[text shortened]... y the way... i shouldn't get credit for this.. Fritz should 🙂. I just found the first move.
    well that settles it I and rubberjaw were both wrong. but at least I was right that Kb4 was a draw.
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    21 Oct '07 02:50
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    Bf2
    5.Bf2???? d1(Q)
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    21 Oct '07 02:51
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    well that settles it I and rubberjaw were both wrong. but at least I was right that Kb4 was a draw.
    yah, engines aside now that I look at it that seems to be the only move. Nice that you guys are working this out though... do this in your real games and you're on the way to 2000 levels.
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    21 Oct '07 02:52
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    5.Bf2???? d1(Q)
    already changed it, numbnuts
    Ka6 wins, so indeed, we were both wrong.
    it doesn't draw, but Kb4 doesn't win...
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    21 Oct '07 02:54
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    already changed it, numbnuts
    Ka6 wins, so indeed, we were both wrong.
    it doesn't draw, but Kb4 doesn't win...
    I was either writing this before you changed it or while you were changing it. and my nuts aren't numb because if they were I wouldn't be arguing with you I'd be at the doctor hoping I can still have kids.

    😛😉
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