Originally posted by tomtom232
I was either writing this before you changed it or while you were changing it. and my nuts aren't numb because if they were I wouldn't be arguing with you I'd be at the doctor hoping I can still have kids.

😛😉

fair enough, scratch the numbnuts remark
does Kc5 give the same result as a6?

Originally posted by rubberjaw30
fair enough, scratch the numbnuts remark
does Kc5 give the same result as a6?

nope black moves between e2 and f2. Bh4+ leads to the same thing that happened when you played Kb4 which I just noticed is actually a blunder.

Kc5?? and Kb4?? are out of there.

Originally posted by tomtom232
nope black moves between e2 and f2. Bh4+ leads to the same thing that happened when you played Kb4 which I just noticed is actually a blunder.

Kc5?? and Kb4?? are out of there.

Kb4 is not a blunder, because it does not lose the game, just draws.

Originally posted by rubberjaw30
Kb4 is not a blunder, because it does not lose the game, just draws.

but that is opinion. Is drawing a forced win a blunder?

Originally posted by tomtom232
but that is opinion. Is drawing a forced win a blunder?

no, it only deserves one ?
?? signifies that it (should) lose the game on the spot, or that you hung your queen, or something significantly horrible like that.
I don't think any move that ends with a forced draw should be a blunder... its just obviously not best.

Originally posted by ih8sens
This is interesting... just For everyone's info.. Ka6 wins..

I think it's the only win too... maybe not.

1. Ka6 Ke1 2. Ba5 Kd1 3. Bb4 Kc1 4. Ba3+ Kd1 5. Bb5 Ke1 6. Bb4 Kd1 7. Bd3 Kc1 8. Ba3+ Kd1 9. Kb5 Ke1 Bb4 Kd1 11. Kc4 Ke1 12. Kd4 Kd1 13. Ke3 Kc1 14. Bxd2+ Kd1 15. Bc3 Kc1 16. Be4 Kd1 17. Kd3 Kc1 18. Bd5 Kb1 19. Be5
Kc ...[text shortened]... . Fritz should 🙂. I just found the first move.. which, in my defense is the hardest one 🙂.

This position was one of those in a collection of Iola Jones from http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/gossimit/c/tactic.htm.

1.Ka6 is given as the only winning move for white.

Originally posted by tomtom232
Is drawing a forced win a blunder?

yes

Originally posted by Wulebgr
yes

Thats what thought but apparently not rubberjaw. maybe its because hes distracted by his jaw that is made out of rubber. 😉

Originally posted by tomtom232
Thats what thought but apparently not rubberjaw. maybe its because hes distracted by his jaw that is made out of rubber. 😉

failed attempt number 536 for trying to accurately insult my username.

Originally posted by rubberjaw30
failed attempt number 536 for trying to accurately insult my username.

I sat there for a couple of minutes trying to find a good one but this was the best I came up with. Eventually I will come up with a good one.

😛 🙄

Originally posted by tomtom232
I sat there for a couple of minutes trying to find a good one but this was the best I came up with. Eventually I will come up with a good one.

😛 🙄

that's what numbers one through 535 said as well, obviously, they didn't get it right either.

Originally posted by tomtom232
Thats what thought but apparently not rubberjaw. maybe its because hes distracted by his jaw that is made out of rubber. 😉

try beating louder

Originally posted by Wulebgr
try beating louder

ehh?

Originally posted by rubberjaw30
ehh?

tom-tom (tŏm'tŏm'😉 pronunciation also tam-tam (tŭm'tŭm', tăm'tăm'😉
n.

1. Any of various small-headed drums, usually long and narrow, that are beaten with the hands.
2. A monotonous rhythmical drumbeat or similar sound.