Originally posted by MoneyMaker7All rook endings are drawn!
[fen]2R5/p6p/8/1p6/4rk2/P4p2/1P5P/3K4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
41. Rf8+! Ke3
Now it looks like it's drawn. Black can just shift his rook around on f8 and f7 and then check white whenever his king moves or his rook moves off of the e-file.
Am I right or am I wrong? Provide your analysis and figure out this endgame.
The game actually ended with ...[text shortened]... all the exact moves.
(P.S. sorry for the triple post I got confused with the FEN inserting)
Originally posted by MoneyMaker7The more I look at it, the more I am convinced that this is a win for black rather than a draw. In rook endgames, the position of the king and the activity of the rook must be optimised before making pawn breaks and allowing the simplification. That's why I would not play e5 immediately.
Well practically, Black has a better chance of winning than drawing. However, do you all agree that this position is theoretically drawn?
Originally posted by AlboMalapropFoozerThat line has chances too, but I would prefer a) not to play b4 that soon or if you do, b) not to play b3 but Re4 instead, again threatening to take the third row (and then b3).
I wonder if the following line of play is promising for Black?
35 ... a5
36 Ke1 b4
37 axb4 axb4
38 Kd1 b3
39 Rf3 Rc2
40 Rxb3 Rxh2
Originally posted by MoneyMaker7I don't think so. Black has 2 pluses in this position: an extra pawn, and his king and rook are by far more active than their white counterparts.
I don't know extremely much about endgames, but here's an interesting one I saw recently. The starting position looked like this.
Black played 35...e5
Is that the right move?
Originally posted by Varenkab4 may be the winning move. After axb4 - Rxb4, black king will proceed to h5 and will attack f pawn (or h pawn if h3 is played). White rook is bound to the protection of the two weak pawns therefore cannot prevent black kings march. If white plays Re2 while black king is on its way, Re4 and since Rxe4 fxe4 is a winning position for black, white rook shall return to f2 square again. Meanwhile, after Re4 black will be loosing the double attack on b and f pawns temporarily. At that moment white may create counter play by playing b3 and then Ra2 -attacking a pawn, so safest way is to play a5 and a4 before the progression of the king.
Working with computer analysis, I think Black can win starting with b4. One idea is that if then axb4, Rxb4, Black's rook becomes more active in terms of attacking two White weaknesses. Then Black can consider improving the position of his king or a-pawn, etc. Maybe b4 uses "the principle of two weaknesses".