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Fastest CheckMate ever I guess :)

Fastest CheckMate ever I guess :)

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Hi,

I know this is a common move, I just checkmated a person in 7 half moves, I moved 4 times whereas he moved thrice.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1501713

Is this the minimum no. of moves needed to checkmate a person?

I am very happy, I checkmated a guy who had about 150 points more than me.

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Originally posted by yashsr
Hi,

I know this is a common move, I just checkmated a person in 7 half moves, I moved 4 times whereas he moved thrice.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1501713

Is this the minimum no. of moves needed to checkmate a person?

I am very happy, I checkmated a guy who had about 150 points more than me.
Game 1501713

Fastest checkmate ever = 1. g4 e5 2. f4 Qh4 ++

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Originally posted by yashsr
Hi,

I know this is a common move, I just checkmated a person in 7 half moves, I moved 4 times whereas he moved thrice.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1501713

Is this the minimum no. of moves needed to checkmate a person?

I am very happy, I checkmated a guy who had about 150 points more than me.
I think 'fools mate' is the quickest. 2 moves.

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Originally posted by yashsr


I know this is a common move, I just checkmated a person in 7 half moves, I moved 4 times whereas he moved thrice.



Is this the minimum no. of moves needed to checkmate a person?

I am very happy, I checkmated a guy who had about 150 points more than me.[/b]
Congrats, but the min. # number of moves is 2 by the black attacker. Check out how under "Best and Worst Chess" in this forum. i just discovered this myself from Freddie2004, he sure knows what he is talking about.

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Originally posted by yashsr
Hi,

I know this is a common move, I just checkmated a person in 7 half moves, I moved 4 times whereas he moved thrice.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1501713

Is this the minimum no. of moves needed to checkmate a person?

I am very happy, I checkmated a guy who had about 150 points more than me.
I think that is a variation of the Scholar's Mate,
but for future reference it is in 4 moves not 7.
1 whole move is when black and white move, one move by one colour is a half a move.

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
I think that is a variation of the Scholar's Mate,
but for future reference it is in 4 moves not 7.
1 whole move is when black and white move, one move by one colour is a half a move.
He said 4 moves... 7 half moves.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
He said 4 moves... 7 half moves.
Did he?...
D'oh!

I should pay more attention.

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Hi everybody,

Thank you for all your replies. Although there can be a checkmate in less than 7 half moves, this checkmate is the most practicle one as there is a lot of chances of this happening as opposed to the other.

The other one that you guys are mentioning is very difficult to obtain. Its possible only when you are playing both white and black and hoping for a black win. 😉

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Originally posted by mwmiller
I think 'fools mate' is the quickest. 2 moves.
Fool's Mate is the quickest. Black wins in two moves. There are eight possible sequences of moves leading to 2...Qh4#. White can win in a similar manner in three moves (5 half-moves). There are ~ 290 sequences of moves leading to 3.Qh5#

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Originally posted by Whats goin on eh
i just discovered this myself from Freddie2004, he sure knows what he is talking about.
He sure does.

Freddie taught me everything I know. You'll go a long way if you listen to him, kid.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
He sure does.

Freddie taught me everything I know. You'll go a long way if you listen to him, kid.

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Originally posted by yashsr
Thank you for all your replies. Although there can be a checkmate in less than 7 half moves, this checkmate is the most practicle one as there is a lot of chances of this happening as opposed to the other.

The other one that you guys are mentioning is very difficult to obtain. Its possible only when you are playing both white and black and hoping for a black win. 😉
More practical, it seems to me, is a quick knockout that does not require weak positional moves for the winning player. Legall's pseudo sacrifice is such a manuever.

In the position below, black gets mated quickly if she grabs the white queen. But if she refuses the bait, white has won a pawn and has the edge.



This position arises after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.Nc3 Bg4 5.h6 Bh5 6.Nxe5!

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Originally posted by yashsr
he moved thrice.
Verily, sir, a game of true excellence. I shall go anon and tell the queen.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
More practical, it seems to me, is a quick knockout that does not require weak positional moves for the winning player. Legall's pseudo sacrifice is such a manuever.

In the position below, black gets mated quickly if she grabs the white queen. But if she refuses the bait, white has won a pawn and has the edge.

[fen]r2qkbnr/ppp2ppp/2np4/4N2b/2B1P3/2N4P ...[text shortened]... - 0 6[/fen]

This position arises after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.Nc3 Bg4 5.h6 Bh5 6.Nxe5!
Game 1096517

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
More practical, it seems to me, is a quick knockout that does not require weak positional moves for the winning player. Legall's pseudo sacrifice is such a manuever.

In the position below, black gets mated quickly if she grabs the white queen. But if she refuses the bait, white has won a pawn and has the edge.

[fen]r2qkbnr/ppp2ppp/2np4/4N2b/2B1P3/2N4P ...[text shortened]... - 0 6[/fen]

This position arises after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.Nc3 Bg4 5.h6 Bh5 6.Nxe5!
that is truly an excellent game. But, I think its 5.h3.... and not 5.h6....

cheers!!

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