Originally posted by sonhouse First thing I thought of was promoting to a knight. That seems also enough to win, no stalemate from the check with the black queen.
But after black plays Qa2 either it's hard or impossible for white to activate his knight
[FEN "6k1/6p1/1p3pp1/1r6/6PK/8/R7/8 b - - 0 1"] 1... Rb3 2. Ra7 {This lad saw what I was up to and prepared a sneaky....} 2... g5+ 3. Kh5 Kh7 {Mate with Rh3. Another glorious win for greepa.........} 4. Rxg7+ {.......Arghhhh!!! I took it and swallowed the stalemate. Else I could lose.} 4... Kh8 5. Kg6 Ra3 6. Rb7 Ra8 7. Rxb6 {I'm certainly not winning that. gg.}
[FEN "2r1b2k/2P4p/3R2pP/p2B1pP1/Pp2pP2/1P2K3/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
2. Rd8 Rxd8 {Now promotion to a Queen or Rook is stalemate.} 3. cxd8=B {White doesn't mate next move but still wins the game.} Bf7 4. Bf6+ Kg8 5. Bxf7+ Kxf7 6. Bd8 {and white will gobble black's queenside pawns... I'm sure when greenpawn said white mates next move he meant and white mates some next move. = )}
what if Black does not play 1. .. Rxd8, but Ra8? It seems like a good stalemate trap to me.
- 2. Rxa8: stalemate
- 2. c8=(whatever) Rxc8 3. Rxc8: stalemate (if not 3. Rxc8, Black removed the promoting pawn, which is good. The game afterwards is drawish)
- 2. something else: I don't see opportunities for white. Suggestions?
Originally posted by tvochess - 2. something else: I don't see opportunities for white. Suggestions?
e.g. Bxa8. If you then revise your idea to be Rd8, Rb8 (instead of Ra8) then again White just plays the bishop somewhere to remove the stalemate, e.g. Ba8
Originally posted by Varenka e.g. Bxa8. If you then revise your idea to be Rd8, Rb8 (instead of Ra8) then again White just plays the bishop somewhere to remove the stalemate, e.g. Ba8
Indeed, always easy to miss moves when not looking at the board. 😉
Originally posted by tomtom232 [pgn]
[FEN "2r1b2k/2P4p/3R2pP/p2B1pP1/Pp2pP2/1P2K3/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
2. Rd8 Rxd8 {Now promotion to a Queen or Rook is stalemate.}
3. cxd8=B {White doesn't mate next move but still wins the game.} Bf7 4. Bf6+ Kg8 5. Bxf7+ Kxf7 6. Bd8 {and white will gobble black's queenside pawns... I'm sure when greenpawn said white mates next move he meant and white mates some next move. = )} [/pgn]
Mate. Perhaps someone knows a faster way?
2 extra credit points to whoever can tell me the name of the Kd2 tactic.
FEN
2r1b2k/2P4p/3R2pP/p2B1pP1/Pp2pP2/1P2K3/8/8 w - - 0 1
[SetUp "1"][FEN "2r1b2k/2P4p/3R2pP/p2B1pP1/Pp2pP2/1P2K3/8/8 w - - 0 1"]1. Rf6 {threatening mate} Bd7 2. Kd2 {not e2, else white must reply... Kd2 followed by e3+ and Ke2 and black is in zuggers!} e3+ 3. Ke2 {zuggers!} Re8 {logical} 4. Rd6 Bc8 {4...Bc6 5. Rxc6 Rc8 6. Rd6 Re8 and Rd8 for the same mate} 5. Rd8 Bd7 6. Rxd7 {but not Rxe8 else stalemate trouble looms again} Rf8 7. Rd8 Rxd8 8. cxd8=R# 1-0
Originally posted by PhySiQ Mate. Perhaps someone knows a faster way?
2 extra credit points to whoever can tell me the name of the Kd2 tactic.
[pgn][SetUp "1"][FEN "2r1b2k/2P4p/3R2pP/p2B1pP1/Pp2pP2/1P2K3/8/8 w - - 0 1"]1. Rf6 {threatening mate} Bd7 2. Kd2 {not e2, else white must reply... Kd2 followed by e3+ and Ke2 and black is in zuggers!} e3+ 3. Ke2 {zuggers!} Re8 {logical} 4. R ...[text shortened]... {but not Rxe8 else stalemate trouble looms again} Rf8 7. Rd8 Rxd8 8. cxd8=R# 1-0[/pgn]
Find white's winning move
31 Jan '12 20:52
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