Originally posted by SicilianNajdorfFrom what I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about.
No , now , he spends 10 years in jail for playing chess in Belgrade , Yugoslavia , 1992 / 1972 don't remember Match of the Century .
Go on to Wikepidea and you can get some massive sad new from him .
Fischer is currently living in Iceland. He never spent 10 years in jail. He commited a crime by playing chess in Yugoslavia in 1992. He's pretty much insane and paranoid that a Jewish conspiracy is behind everything that has happened to him.
Originally posted by zakkwylderI understand the point you're trying to make, but you're way, way off using Jordan as your example.
Look at history. Take Michael Jordan for example. He was great in his time, but he rasied the bar for future generations. Even in his prime, I don't think he would stand a chance against players of today.
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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardThe idea that Fischer "ran" away from Karpov is laughable. Fischer's nuts but I can't think of any reputable chess expert at the time who figured Karpov would have much of a chance. Fischer gave up the title for his own demented reasons, but fear of Karpov certainly wasn't you of them. And the idea that Fischer would have "cracked" against strong opposition, asserted by another poster, is ridiculous; please study Fish's record, including his easy victories in match play against the world's strongest GM's and something like his acheivement at one of the US Championship of winning every game.
The strongest chess player ever would have defended his world title for many years against strong opposition. Not run away as soon as a guy like Karpov arived.
Anyone else , there is much information about bobby on
http://www.bobby-fischer.net/index.html
It's the ultimate bobby fischer home page as well as a few others.
http://bobbyfischer.net/phpBB2/index.php
that's another really good one where you can post this thread becuase the questions would be more reasonable there.
Originally posted by SicilianNajdorfEven that site doesn't back up your ludicrous claims.
Anyone else , there is much information about bobby on
http://www.bobby-fischer.net/index.html
It's the ultimate bobby fischer home page as well as a few others.
http://bobbyfischer.net/phpBB2/index.php
that's another really good one where you can post this thread becuase the questions would be more reasonable there.
And you really think you will get a balanced discussion on a site dedicated to Fischer and full of superlatives?
Originally posted by skims
Has Fischer ever played Kasparov in a tournament match?
If so, what was the score?
Trust me if these two gentleman had ever played even one game of chess not only would every living person know about it but every dead person too.
If they haven't, what would the score be in, say, a 10 game match??
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Originally posted by no1marauder- Kasparov kept on playing chess for 20 year.after he became worldchampion.
The idea that Fischer "ran" away from Karpov is laughable. Fischer's nuts but I can't think of any reputable chess expert at the time who figured Karpov would have much of a chance. Fischer gave up the title for his own demented reasons, but fear of Karpov certainly wasn't you of them. And the idea that Fischer would have "cracked" against strong ...[text shortened]... st GM's and something like his acheivement at one of the US Championship of winning every game.
- He defended his title many times against some of the strongest chess players ever. (Karpov, Anand, kramnik)
Its only logical and natural that eventualy he lost it.
- Fischer never did this. He could have played on after he became worldchampion and do the same, if he was capable of it.... But we'll never know that.
- Fischers record in match play is amazing but would it still be this amazing if he has played on for 20 years after he became worldchampion?...we'll never know.
Kasparov is the best and he proved it.
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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardHe certainly didn't "prove" it against Kramnik. Who says Anand and Kramnik are "some of the strongest chess players ever"? That claim is ludicrous.
- Kasparov kept on playing chess for 20 year.after he became worldchampion.
- He defended his title many times against some of the strongest chess players ever. (Karpov, Anand, kramnik)
Its only logical and natural that eventualy he lost it.
- Fischer never did this. He could have played on after he became worldchampion and do the same, i ...[text shortened]... rs after he became worldchampion?...we'll never know.
Kasparov is the best and he proved it.
I would have loved to see Fischer defend his title for 20 years, but unfortunately he's a little "funny in the head" as my grandmother used to say. That didn't prevent (might have even helped him) become the greatest match player ever. Kasparov's record in match play is certainly not overwhelming. The Fish of 1972 would have whipped him.
Originally posted by no1marauderLOL you making an idiot out of yourself, kramnik is the current WORLD CHAMPION!
He certainly didn't "prove" it against Kramnik. Who says Anand and Kramnik are "some of the strongest chess players ever"? That claim is ludicrous.
I would have loved to see Fischer defend his title for 20 years, but unfortunately he's a little "funny in the head" as my grandmother used to say. That didn't prevent (might have even help ...[text shortened]... 's record in match play is certainly not overwhelming. The Fish of 1972 would have whipped him.
Anand is the highest rated player in the world and is considered by many to be the strongest chess player never to become world camp.
Record in match play, what does that say? That his opponent s*cked?
Kasparov had the highest rating ever now that says something.
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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardSo a**hole (since you want to start calling names), Kramnik is the current world champion (of how many?) so therefore he's one of the greatest players ever? Did you ever hear of Tigran Petrosian and Boris Spassky? They were world champions who apparently "sucked" according to your moronic statement.
LOL you making an idiot out of yourself, kramnik is the current WORLD CHAMPION!
Anand is the highest rated player in the world and is considered by many to be the strongest chess player never to become world camp.
Record in match play, what does that say? That his opponent s*cked?
Kasparov had the highest rating ever now that says something.
Anand "considered the strongest player never to become world champ"?? By who; a bunch of other juveniles like yourself?? Ever hear of Akiba Rubinstein? Or Aron Nimzovitch? Most of the openings you're probably playing right now were formed in the minds of men who would have handed a second rater like Anand his lunch. And ratings don't prove anything except that there are more tournaments than there used to be and Kasparov does well against the current crop of players. I wonder how someone who folds in big match after big match would have done against somebody like the "Chess Machine" Raul Capablanca? If he couldn't score a win against Kramnik, how many do you think he would have scored against the man who took the great Emanuel Lasker's title without losing a game in that match! Read something about the history of chess, Junior, before you start elevating these pikers to God status.
EDIT: I found 8 games in the Chessbase database between the "greatest of all time" Kasparov and "sucky" Spassky; they are dead even at 2-2-4. Spassky beat Kasparov in 1983 when Spassky was 46 years old! I can't find a Kasparov win until 1989 and Spassky drew against him in 1988 when Spassky was on the wrong side of 50. Yeah, Boris "sucked".
It's just like comparing apples to pears; You can't!
1) Chess has developed dramatically through the last 30 years.
First and foremost because players nowadays have a much more
professional approach to the game, especially the physical side
of the game is being taken much more seriously today.
2) Matchplay and tournament play is not by any means comparable.
The psychological factor is soooooooo much more important
in matchplay (sorry for adding a no1 touch to the post 🙂)
If you doubt this, please read the book on any world championship
match ever played. Personally, I love the Karpov-Korchnoi match
as a perfect example on psychological (and sometimes almost
physical!) warfare.
If I were to compare the apples and pears anyway, I'd put my money on Fischer, because of 2) 😀