Flawed composition?

This study by J. Kling from 1852 is given as a win with white to move:



I fail to see the win.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
This study by J. Kling from 1852 is given as a win with white to move:

[fen]8/5p2/8/5p2/2k2P2/4P1P1/4K3/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

I fail to see the win.

Maybe Kf3?

Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
Maybe Kf3?

1.Kf3 Kd3 =

Originally posted by Wulebgr
This study by J. Kling from 1852 is given as a win with white to move:

[fen]8/5p2/8/5p2/2k2P2/4P1P1/4K3/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

I fail to see the win.

I don't see much future in g4 so maybe after 1.Kd2 Kd5 2. Kd3 Ke6 3. Kd4 it's possible to eventually force black's king to abandon the pawns.

Originally posted by DeepThought
I don't see much future in g4 so maybe after 1.Kd2 Kd5 2. Kd3 Ke6 3. Kd4 it's possible to eventually force black's king to abandon the pawns.

2...Ke6 loses, it seems.

Black should play 2...f6, killing a tempo to gain the opposition.

why not simply e4?

if he takes e4 you play e3 and then g4 to get him in zugzwang

Originally posted by Testrider
why not simply e4?

if he takes e4 you play e3 and then g4 to get him in zugzwang

1.e4 fxe4 2.g4 Kd5 looks like a draw to me.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
1.Kf3 Kd3 =

Kf3 Kd3
g4 fxg4
Kxg4 Kxe3
Kf5...and so on

Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
Kf3 Kd3
g4 fxg4
Kxg4 Kxe3
Kf5...and so on

4...f6 =

Originally posted by Wulebgr
4...f6 =

How do you put the little boards on here?

Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
How do you put the little boards on here?

Put a [ in front of the text below:



fen]8/5p2/8/3k4/4pPP1/8/4K3/8 w - - 0 3[/fen]

Originally posted by Wulebgr
4...f6 =

Gotcha. Was doing it in my head and didn't see that.

Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
Kf3 Kd3
g4 fxg4
Kxg4 Kxe3
Kf5...and so on

No, you can't drop the pawn, the point is to get black to play 2. f6 and then send the king to f3 :

1. Kd2 Kd4 2. Kd3 f6 3. Ke2 and for example 3 .... Ke4 4. Kf2 Kd4 5. Kf3 looks more like it. Black can't stop white getting connected pawns through and it should be possible for white to gain a tempo by pushing a pawn at the right time.

Originally posted by DeepThought
1. Kd2 Kd4 2. Kd3 f6 3. Ke2 and for example 3 .... Ke4 4. Kf2 Kd4 5. Kf3 looks more like it. Black can't stop white getting connected pawns through and it should be possible for white to gain a tempo by pushing a pawn at the right time.

1...Kd4 is illegal

Originally posted by Wulebgr
1...Kd4 is illegal

1. ... Kd5 and 4. ... Kd5.