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  1. 07 Jul '06 03:00
    I went through a Siclian opening book today looking for the best ways to fight the Najdorf/Scheveningen. Vs. the schev. I found the Keres attack (scores 60% for white and is super active). This opening made me remember one that I had seen used a couple of times (only by one player) against the Najdorf. You've probably heard of this player, he has a movie...he was supposed to be the "next Fischer"....he's doing martial arts or some thing like that now...Yeah, it's Josh Waitzkin . Anyhow...have any of you guys heard of/used this attack? It certainly looks interesting and seems at least somewhat similar to the Keres attack. Here's a game and the PGN if you guys are interested.

    [uid]http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1335832[/uid]


    [Event "Mermaid Beach Club"]
    [Site "Bermuda"]
    [Date "1999.01.21"]
    [EventDate "?"]
    [Round "8"]
    [Result "1/2-1/2"]
    [White "Joshua Waitzkin"]
    [Black "Yannick Pelletier"]
    [ECO "B90"]
    [WhiteElo "?"]
    [BlackElo "?"]
    [PlyCount "140"]

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1 e6 7.g4 d5 8.exd5 Nxd5
    9.Nxd5 Qxd5 10.Be3 Qa5+ 11.c3 Be7 12.g5 O-O 13.Bd3 e5 14.Nb3 Qa4 15.Qh5 g6 16.Qf3 Nc6
    17.h4 Rd8 18.Be4 Be6 19.Nc5 Bxc5 20.Bxc5 Qb5 21.b4 Qc4 22.h5 Bd5 23.Bxd5 Rxd5 24.hxg6 hxg6
    25.Rc1 Rd3 26.Rg4 Qe6 27.Be3 Qf5 28.Qh3 e4 29.Rh4 Qxh3 30.Rxh3 Rc8 31.a3 Nd4 32.Kf1 Nf5
    33.c4 Rxa3 34.Kg2 Rd8 35.Bb6 Rdd3 36.Rh2 Ra2 37.Rch1 Rg3+ 38.Kf1 Ra1+ 39.Ke2 Ra2+ 40.Kf1 Ra1+
    41.Ke2 Rxh1 42.Rxh1 Rb3 43.Rd1 Rxb4 44.Rd8+ Kg7 45.Bc7 f6 46.Rd7+ Kf8 47.gxf6 Rxc4 48.Be5 Rc5
    49.Bf4 b6 50.Kf1 a5 51.Ra7 g5 52.Bc7 Rc6 53.Be5 Nd6 54.Rc7 Rxc7 55.Bxd6+ Kf7 56.Bxc7 Kxf6
    57.Bxb6 a4 58.Bc5 Kf5 59.Kg2 Kf4 60.Bd6+ Kg4 61.Bc5 Kf4 62.Ba3 g4 63.Bc1+ Kf5 64.Kg3 e3
    65.Bxe3 a3 66.Bd4 a2 67.Ba1 Kg5 68.Kh2 Kf4 69.Kg2 Ke4 70.Kg3 1/2-1/2

    Here is the ECO for the opening as well...

    B90 Freak Attack, Siicilian 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1

    Comments?
  2. 07 Jul '06 03:03
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    I went through a Siclian opening book today looking for the best ways to fight the Najdorf/Scheveningen. Vs. the schev. I found the Keres attack (scores 60% for white and is super active). This opening made me remember one that I had seen used a couple of times (only by one player) against the Najdorf. You've probably heard of this player, he has a movi ...[text shortened]... 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1

    Comments?
    Another, but for some reason CG doesn't have this listed as a "Freak Attack" game. I wonder why?

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1392785

    [Event "Manhattan Inv."]
    [Site "New York"]
    [Date "1998.10.11"]
    [EventDate "?"]
    [Round "4"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [White "Joshua Waitzkin"]
    [Black "Semyon Palatnik"]
    [ECO "B90"]
    [WhiteElo "2480"]
    [BlackElo "2490"]
    [PlyCount "74"]

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1 Nc6 7.g4 h6 8.h4 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 Bxg4 10.Rxg4 Nxg4 11.Qa4+ b5 12.Nxb5 e6
    13.Nc7+ Ke7 14.Nxa8 Qxa8 15.Be2 Nf6 16.Bd3 g5 17.Bd2 Bg7 18.O-O-O Rb8 19.Bb4 Ne8 20.c3 Rb6 21.hxg5 hxg5 22.Qa5 Qb7 23.Qxg5+ Bf6
    24.Qa5 Be5 25.Qxe5 Rxb4 26.Qg5+ f6 27.Qd2 Rxe4 28.Bxe4 Qxe4 29.Qd4 Qc6 30.Rg1 e5 31.Qa7+ Ke6 32.Qh7 Qf3 33.Rg8 Qf4+ 34.Kb1 Nc7
    35.Qxc7 Qe4+ 36.Kc1 Qe1+ 37.Kc2 1-0
  3. 07 Jul '06 13:00
    I was hoping this thread would be about funk music
  4. 07 Jul '06 20:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    I went through a Siclian opening book today looking for the best ways to fight the Najdorf/Scheveningen. Vs. the schev. I found the Keres attack (scores 60% for white and is super active). This opening made me remember one that I had seen used a couple of times (only by one player) against the Najdorf. You've probably heard of this player, he has a movi 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1

    Comments?
    Yeah, Josh Waitzkin became an IM, tried 10 years to become a GM, and when he failed miserably he quit and became to tae kwon do master. He was an IM at age 16 when Fischer was a GM at age 16.
  5. 07 Jul '06 20:45
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    Yeah, Josh Waitzkin became an IM, tried 10 years to become a GM, and when he failed miserably he quit and became to tae kwon do master. He was an IM at age 16 when Fischer was a GM at age 16.
    In the second game it shows his rating at 2480. I wouldn't call that "failing miserably".
  6. 07 Jul '06 21:01
    Yeah, but even the other no-name guy opponent was 2490, 10 points higher. But seriously, IM is still impressive. I think Waitzkin also went on to become a world champion in the martial art of hand fighting. Heck, I'd settle for playing chess on a 1700-1800 uscf level.
  7. 07 Jul '06 21:03
    Originally posted by runninfiend
    Yeah, but even the other no-name guy opponent was 2490, 10 points higher. But seriously, IM is still impressive. I think Waitzkin also went on to become a world champion in the martial art of hand fighting. Heck, I'd settle for playing chess on a 1700-1800 uscf level.
    Yes he did become world champion.

    Does anybody have ANYTHING to say about the opening though?
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Gonzalo de Córdoba
    08 Jul '06 01:54
    Gooble gobble, gooble gobble, we accept cmsMaster, we accept cmsMaster, one of us, one of us!
  9. 08 Jul '06 02:42
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Yes he did become world champion.

    Does anybody have ANYTHING to say about the opening though?
    I am playing a $5 entry fee, unrated G/30 + 5 sec delay tournament tomorrow, so I'll be picking openings at random. If someone plays the najdorf against me, I'll try it.
  10. 08 Jul '06 14:38
    Originally posted by chesskid001
    Yeah, Josh Waitzkin became an IM, tried 10 years to become a GM, and when he failed miserably he quit and became to tae kwon do master. He was an IM at age 16 when Fischer was a GM at age 16.
    Wasn't there a film based on his life called, "Searching for a Needle in a Haystack"?
  11. 09 Jul '06 00:56
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Gooble gobble, gooble gobble, we accept cmsMaster, we accept cmsMaster, one of us, one of us!
    Don't get it. Animal Farm?
  12. 02 Nov '06 20:54
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Don't get it. Animal Farm?
    Let's see if I can get this back on topic, and don't bother talking about Waitzkin.


    I've started playing the Open Sicilian again, and am debating between this and the English Attack (Which seem to have some similarities).

    Have any of you guys tried the Freak Attack, and what are your opinions of it?
  13. 02 Nov '06 21:05
    I've played it in some blitz games and it's wild (especially since none of my opponents know any book on it). I doubt I would play it OTB though.
  14. 02 Nov '06 21:08
    Originally posted by zebano
    I've played it in some blitz games and it's wild (especially since none of my opponents know any book on it). I doubt I would play it OTB though.
    Wild is fine by me, I'm trying to get some bullet games in with it on PC to see how I like it in the opening stages, but nobody wants to play the Sicilian against me.
  15. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    02 Nov '06 22:12
    Haha, I just played this game. All around humorous. He refused to resign, so I started screwing with him, but you can tell when that starts to happen. I thought I was pretty much better the whole time, then I just got sick on him.

    [Event "ICC 3 1"]
    [Site "Internet Chess Club"]
    [Date "2006.11.02"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "TheShootah"]
    [Black "SilentRain"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "B90"]
    [WhiteElo "1858"]
    [BlackElo "1656"]
    [PlyCount "127"]
    [EventDate "2006.??.??"]
    [TimeControl "180+1"]

    1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Rg1 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. g4 h6 9. g5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Rxh2 11. Qf3 Be7 12. O-O-O Nc6 13. Be3 g6 14. Nc5 Qc7 15. Nxe6 fxe6 16. Rxg6 Qd8 17. Bc4 Kd7 18. Na4 d5 19. exd5 exd5 20. Bxd5 Nxd5 21. Rxd5+ Kc7 22. Rxd8 Kxd8 23. Rg8+ Kc7 24. Bb6+ Kd6 25. Qd3+ Nd4 26. Qg6+ Ne6 27. Rxa8 Rxf2 28. Bc5+ Kd7 29. Bxe7 Kxe7 30. Qe8+ Kd6 31. Rd8+ Nxd8 32. Qxd8+ Kc6 33. Qe8+ Kd5 34. Qd7+ Ke4 35. Qxb7+ Kf5 36. Qxa6 Rf4 37. Kd2 Rd4+ 38. Kc3 Re4 39. Qd3 Kf4 40. Qxe4+ Kxe4 41. Nc5+ Kd5 42. Nd3 e4 43. Ne1 e3 44. Kd3 e2 45. Kxe2 Kc4 46. Kd2 Kb4 47. c3+ Kc4 48. Nf3 Kc5 49. Kd3 Kb5 50. b3 Kc5 51. a3 Kb5 52. b4 Ka4 53. Kd4 Kb5 54. c4+ Kc6 55. b5+ Kb6 56. a4 Ka5 57. c5 Kxa4 58.b6 Kb5 59. b7 Kc6 60. b8=Q Kd7 61. Qd6+ Kc8 62. Qe7 Kb8 63. c6 Kc8 64. Qd7+ {Black resigns} 1-0

    The key in this line I would think, is that you have to watch out for black's play in the center, because clearly that's what he is gonna start doing when he sees you play Rg1.