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  1. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 15:24
    I've been playing around with the training feature on Fritz 12 and have given it a couple of games on 1800 level. In one game it move it's King straight into Check and in another made two moves one after the other. You can't take the moves back or anything and it just spoils the game.
    Anybody else experience this?
  2. 16 Feb '10 15:33
    Please post the examples.
  3. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 15:50
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Please post the examples.
    I'll get right on it.
  4. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 15:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Please post the examples.
    Well there's obviously something up here. It won't even copy the games as normal. Here's the first occasion. It moves it's King into check. I've no idea what all the garble is betweeen the moves in the PGN. Can anybody decipher this and put it into one of those game reader things. I'm hopeless with that! No idea how this is going to help solve the problem though.


    1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Nc6 {[%emt
    0:00:00]} 3. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:49]}
    Nxe4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nxe4 {[%emt 0:00:25]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bd3 {
    [%emt 0:00:04]} dxe4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bxe4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:
    00]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:36]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. b3 {[%emt 0:00:21]} Bg4 {
    [%emt 0:00:23]} 10. Bxc6 {[%emt 0:01:09]} bxc6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 11. Re1 {[%emt
    0:02:01]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 12. Bb2 {[%emt 0:01:02]} Rfc8 {[%emt 0:00:24]}
    13. d4 {[%emt 0:07:11]} Bxf3 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 14. Qxf3 {[%emt 0:00:44]} Qxf3 {
    [%emt 0:00:09]} 15. gxf3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} exd4 {[%emt 0:00:59]} 16. Bxd4 {
    [%emt 0:00:11]} h5 {[%emt 0:01:04]} 17. Re4 {[%emt 0:00:35]} f6 {[%emt 0:00:32]
    } 18. Rae1 {[%emt 0:00:27]} Rd8 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 19. Bc3 {[%emt 0:00:13]} Kh7 {
    [%emt 0:00:35]} 20. Rc4 {[%emt 0:01:02]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:39]} 21. Re6 {[%emt 0:
    02:00]} Rab8 {[%emt 0:00:47]} 22. Ba5 {[%emt 0:03:16]} Rd7 {[%emt 0:00:35]} 23.
    f4 {[%emt 0:03:27]} Kh6 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 24. f5 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Kg5 {[%emt 0:
    00:33]} 25. Rce4 {[%emt 0:01:35]} Kf4 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 0-1
  5. 16 Feb '10 16:08 / 1 edit
    Hi - save the game without all that commentary.

    it stops here. With Black trying to play 25.....Kf4



    Very strange. Does it play 24....Kf4 in the game?
    Is this the same position?
  6. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 16:11
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Please post the examples.
    OK this is the pgn in clear form. Can anyone put it into a game reader?

    Blitz 75m, 16.02.2010

    1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 Bd6 8.0-0 0-0 9.b3 Bg4 10.Bxc6 bxc6 11.Re1 Qf6 12.Bb2 Rfc8 13.d4 Bxf3 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 exd4 16.Bxd4 h5 17.Re4 f6 18.Rae1 Rd8 19.Bc3 Kh7 20.Rc4 c5 21.Re6 Rab8 22.Ba5 Rd7 23.f4 Kh6 24.f5 Kg5 25.Rce4 Kf4 0-1
  7. 16 Feb '10 16:13
    Originally posted by Talisman
    OK this is the pgn in clear form. Can anyone put it into a game reader?

    Blitz 75m, 16.02.2010

    1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 Bd6 8.0-0 0-0 9.b3 Bg4 10.Bxc6 bxc6 11.Re1 Qf6 12.Bb2 Rfc8 13.d4 Bxf3 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 exd4 16.Bxd4 h5 17.Re4 f6 18.Rae1 Rd8 19.Bc3 Kh7 20.Rc4 c5 21.Re6 Rab8 22.Ba5 Rd7 23.f4 Kh6 24.f5 Kg5 25.Rce4 Kf4 0-1
  8. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 16:15
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi - save the game without all that commentary.

    it stops here. With Black trying to play 25.....Kf4

    [fen]1r6/p1pr2p1/3bRp2/B1p2Pkp/4R3/1P6/P1P2P1P/6K1 b - - 0 25[/fen]

    Very strange. Does it play 24....Kf4 in the game?
    Is this the same position?
    Yes it playes Kf4 in the game. I was really quite shocked. It may obvioulsy be a glitch in the programme although i would say that's highly unlikely. Does anyone know if it could be a problem with my computer ar the way it's been installed?
  9. 16 Feb '10 16:26
    Have you contacted chessbase?I'm sure they'd like to know.
  10. 16 Feb '10 16:27
    You are out of my territory now.

    You need one of the boffins to appear. diskamyl was good at these things
    but he got himself banned for saying naughty things in a forum.

    Maybe take a screen dump and send it to Fritz. Is it a bona fide copy?
  11. 16 Feb '10 16:55 / 1 edit
    Sorry, don't think I can help... Just wanted to say that Chessbase might want to rename it "On the Fritz 12". Hehe

    P.S. You might want to check for a patch if you haven't done so.
  12. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 17:32
    Originally posted by Mad Rook
    Sorry, don't think I can help... Just wanted to say that Chessbase might want to rename it "On the Fritz 12". Hehe

    P.S. You might want to check for a patch if you haven't done so.
    You'll have to forgive my technical ignorance. A patch?
    Anyway i'm going to contact customer support and see what they say. It's definitely a genuine copy purchased from Chess Direct.
  13. 16 Feb '10 17:39 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Talisman
    You'll have to forgive my technical ignorance. A patch?
    Anyway i'm going to contact customer support and see what they say. It's definitely a genuine copy purchased from Chess Direct.
    A GUI upgrade. Go to this Chessbase video tutorial for instructions on how to install the GUI upgrade from the Fritz 12 program. It's likely that the first question Chessbase Support asks is if you've installed the latest one.

    http://www.chessbase.com/shop/product.asp?pid=467&user=%20&coin=

    (Then click on the "Update Fritz 12" link)

    It's funny, but the video didn't play for me in Firefox, but worked in Internet Explorer.
  14. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 17:56
    Originally posted by Mad Rook
    A GUI upgrade. Go to this Chessbase video tutorial for instructions on how to install the GUI upgrade from the Fritz 12 program. It's likely that the first question Chessbase Support asks is if you've installed the latest one.

    http://www.chessbase.com/shop/product.asp?pid=467&user=%20&coin=

    (Then click on the "Update Fritz 12" link)

    It's funny, but the video didn't play for me in Firefox, but worked in Internet Explorer.
    Thanks for this. I've just updated the gui. No idea exactly what it's done though it all looks exactly the same.
  15. Standard member Talisman
    Time traveller.
    16 Feb '10 18:05
    One more thing. When i went to update the GUI it told me the programme hadn't been activated yet. This is bizarre. I've been playing with the thing for the past two weeks. I had to enter some figures and it told me activation was sucsessful. I thought the fact i'd been using every part of the programme meant it was already activated. This bit is most confusing!!