30...Qxe3
Game 672803
Obviously your rook has to move out of the way...anything else would be suicide for White...so I obviously have to prepare for White moving the rook out of the way...
If he moves the rook to f1, that leaves me free to take the bishop on e2, but my bishop is safe from White's queen on c2 because of the resulting four move mate: 31. Qxe2 Qc3+ 32. Kd1 Rd8+ 33. Qd3 Rxd3+ 34. Ke2 Qd2++...so my bishop is safe and I can continue to increase pressure on the king and lookout for four move mates or something...
If he moves the rook to g2, I obviously can't take the bishop without putting my queen in an awkward position. I can have that now, can I? I think my best option in that situation would be to move my rook to c8 and threaten his queen to move away so I can take the bishop that's obscuring my way to checkmate...
Golden fields of chess squares are in Black's outlook...
Actually...I have a favor to ask...you don't have to do this if you don't want to...
My chess coach says I should take one of my games that I played recently and have someone else...besides me or him...who is good...critique it so I get a different viewpoint...
Would you mind?
[Event: ?]
[Site: ?]
[Date: 2004.08.17]
[Round: ?]
[White: ????????]
[Black: yamiyokaze]
[Result: 0-1]
[ECO: C84]
[Annotator: yamiyokaze]
[PlyCount: 132]
C84: Closed Ruy Lopez: Unusual White 6th moves
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Nc3 b5 7. Bb3 Bb7 8. d3 O-O 9. Be3 d6 10. a3 Nb8 11. Qe2 Nbd7 12. Nd2 c6 13. f4 a5 14. Qf3 a4 15. Ba2 Qc7 16. Rae1 Rae8 17. Kh1 exf4 18. Qxf4 Ne5 19. d4 Ng6 20. Qg3 Qc8 21. Qf3 Ba6 22. Ne2 d5 23. e5 Ng4 24. Bg1 f6 25. h3 Nh6 26. e6 Qxe6 27. Nf4 Qd7 28. Nxd5 cxd5 29. Bxd5+ Nf7 30. Be6 Qc7 31. Ne4 b4 32. Rf2 Bb7 33. Bh2 Qb6 34. d5 Bc8 35. Bxf7+ Rxf7 36. Nd6 bxa3 37. Nxe8 axb2 38. Rff1 a3 39. d6 a2 40. dxe7 Rxe7 41. Qd5+ Be6 42. Qa8 Nf8 43. Nxg7 Qb7 44. Qxb7 Rxb7 45. Ne8
[45. Nxe6 b1R 46. Nxf8 -+]
45... Bc4 46. Nxf6+ Kf7 47. Rg1
[47. Rf3 Kg6 48. Ne8 Rf7 -+]
47...b1Q 48. Be5 48... Ng6 49. Ba1 49... Qxc2 50. Rc1 Qd3 51. Rcd1 Qb1
[51...Qf5 keeps an even firmer grip 52. Ng4 Qa5 53. Rge1 -+]
52. Nxh7
[52. Rde1 Nf4 53. Ne4 Qb4 54. Bc3 Qe7 -+]
52...Qf5 53. Nf6
[53. Rd6 Be6 54. Rdd1 Rb1 -+]
53...Rb1 54. Ng4 Qc2 55. Ne3 Qb3 56. Rde1
[56. Bd4 Nf4 57. Kh2 Rxd1 58. Rxd1 -+]
56...Rxa1! the knockout punch 57. Rxa1 a deflection Qxe3 58. Rgc1 Qe2 59. Re1 Qf2 60. Rg1 Nh4 61. Rad1 a1R! takes home the point (I've never promoted a rook before...I went for novelty) 62. Rxa1 {Theme: Deflection from d5} Bd5 63. Ra7+ Kf8 64. Ra2 Bxa2 65. g3 Bd5+ 66. Rg2 Qxg2++
http://members.aol.com/manusfealy3/ch10.htm
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Nc3 b5 7. Bb3 Bb7 8. d3 O-O 9. Be3 d6 10. a3 Nb8 11. Qe2 Nbd7 12. Nd2 c6 13. f4 a5 14. Qf3 a4 15. Ba2 Qc7 16. Rae1 Rae8 17. Kh1 exf4 18. Qxf4 Ne5 19. d4 Ng6 20. Qg3 Qc8 21. Qf3 Ba6 22. Ne2 d5 23. e5 Ng4 24. Bg1 f6 25. h3 Nh6 26. e6 Qxe6 27. Nf4 Qd7 28. Nxd5 cxd5 29. Bxd5+ Nf7 30. Be6 Qc7 31. Ne4 b4 32. Rf2 Bb7 33. Bh2 Qb6 34. d5 Bc8 35. Bxf7+ Rxf7 36. Nd6 bxa3 37. Nxe8 axb2 38. Rff1 a3 39. d6 a2 40. dxe7 Rxe7 41. Qd5+ Be6 42. Qa8 Nf8 43. Nxg7 Qb7 44. Qxb7 Rxb7 45. Ne8 ...
Up to move 6 is as far as the opening goes on chessgames.com without subscribing. Since I'm just your average non-paying schmoe, I can't research the known line further there. White deviates from the Chigorin variation (see link) at move 6 by developing the knight instead of pulling out the rook onto e-file with the intent to rip a hole in the center. Nc3 changes the entire dynamic of the game, obviously, without pressing the center from behind a line of rushing pawns. But I wouldn't call it unusual. It looks like white doesn't want to exchange any pieces at this point and is losing tempo simply through constant repositioning.
You probably won't find me busting out with this opening as white since the bishop bounces around in a near-complete circle in the first 6 moves before finally he settles down. And even though by the ninth move, white has a pretty cool-looking front line with the bishops and knights all up on the third rank, and black looks to be in the same place develpmentally, Black seems to be gaining more pawn advances.
Unusual 6th moves? Your move as black on 10 seems rather peculiar. h4 seems like the developmental response. But of course that allows white to move Nd5, and we wouldn't want that now, would we? So back into his hole goes Mr. queenside knight letting bishop defend d5. Seems kind of backward for you to do that, but it's a solid move. Definitely.
I'm kind of scratching my head about white's next move. White should just tear a hole in the center with 11.d4. Or at least defend with h3.
Okay I printed out the game on a piece of paper.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Nc3 b5 7. Bb3 Bb7 8. d3 O-O 9. Be3 d6 10. a3 Nb8
11. Qe2 (I think white should do something different here. He has played no offense and played no exchange the entire game.)
...Nbd7 12. Nd2 c6 13. f4 a5 14. Qf3 a4 15. Ba2 Qc7 16. Rae1 Rae8
17. Kh1 (I don't understand the purpose of that.)
...exf4 18. Qxf4 Ne5 19. d4 Ng6 20. Qg3 Qc8 21. Qf3 Ba6 22. Ne2 d5 23. e5 Ng4 24. Bg1 f6 25. h3 Nh6
26. e6 (Just chalk that up to one too many beers before a move.)
...Qxe6 (obviously.)
27. Nf4 Qd7
28. Nxd5 (Yet another really poor choice by white.)
...cxd5 (Black has the material advantage taking the knight)
29. Bxd5+ (Only halfway decent move white's made since he stepped out of the Ruy Lopez template.)
...Nf7 (Now you've made a little fortress with two layers. Neat.)
30. Be6 Qc7 31. Ne4
...b4 (Great move. Revealing the bishop behind the pawn to threaten the rook. You've instantly tripled the pressure with attacks on a weak pawn a3 and a nevertheless-defended-by-a-rook c2, in addition to white's Rf1 from the bishop. White's turned red with frustration!)
32. Rf2 (Wouldn't want to lose that puppy, right?) Bb7 33. Bh2 Qb6 34. d5 Bc8
35. Bxf7+ (Little bit gutsy take, finally, to break up the super double wall fort you got there. White's been a real pushover till there.)
...Rxf7
36. Nd6 (Excellent move by white for the position he's in.)
...bxa3 (You have enough tempo to get promoted! Nice.)
37. Nxe8 (White snatches a rookman! Uh oh. This could get tricky.)
axb2 38. Rff1
...a3 (Wow. That's cool. Your bishop's back there defending it.)
39. d6 (So white threats the source.)
...a2 (Meanwhile Mr. a-file pawnguy slips past the queen!)
40. dxe7 (White takes your bishop. White's chances are slim but could improve now that he's gaining material.)
...Rxe7 (You could have annihilated him with the promotion of the b-file pawn right then. And white should put you in check with Qd5 for that.)
41. Qd5+ (Yeh, see, he can't win though with your 2 pawns at a2 and b2.)
...Be6 (blockading and threating white queen)
42. Qa8 (A valiant attempt that won't work.)
...Nf8 (Simple and effective preventive block.)
43. Nxg7 (A final desperate attempt sacrificing the knight. White gave up the ghost right there.)
Qb7 44. Qxb7 Rxb7 45. Ne8 ...
(Awww you exchanged queens and spared his knight. How kind of you.)
There's no need to move to the endings. I can see white's a goner.
Originally posted by yamiyokazeYamiy!
Thankies! ^__^
That's really helpful!
Regarding the Ruy Lopez: I thought I could turn the game around and win as white from that Ruy Lopez setup position.
Game 706842
Here's an example I just finished playing against utranj. Honestly I think utranj opened with a starting attack from the get go at the original setup position 10th move, Ruy Lopez variant, that was too aggressive for the position. Not that his original idea wasn't solid, just that his advancing knight got shut down after a few white defensive shuffles. Anyway, I used a bishop sacrifice to crack black's king's pawn wall. Kind of interesting. Not the strongest example of a win for white from that opening, eh. But it gets the point across.