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  1. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Sep '09 00:49 / 1 edit


    Hi All,

    I somehow managed to swindle this game, but my opponent thoroughly outplayed me for most of the game. Instead of playing my normal (and superficially obvious) 3. e3, I followed a database-driven recommendation and and suffered in purgatory for many moves until I was saved by the grace of Caissa. It certainly had nothing to do with justice! Props to my opponent in spite of the result.

    I'm apparently too dumb to get the board right, so here is the header and moves:
    [Event "Open invite"]
    [Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
    [Date "2009.09.07"]
    [EndDate "2009.09.08"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Paul Leggett"]
    [Black "Andrianos"]
    [WhiteRating "1709"]
    [BlackRating "1604"]
    [WhiteELO "1709"]
    [BlackELO "1604"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [GameId "6684102"]

    1. f4 d5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. b3 Bc8g4 4. Bc1b2 Bg4xf3 5. exf3 a6 6. Bf1e2 e6
    7. O-O Ng8f6 8. Nb1c3 Bf8c5 9. Kg1h1 Qd8d6 10. g3 O-O-O 11. Nc3a4 Bc5d4
    12. c3 Bd4a7 13. d4 b5 14. Na4c5 Ba7xc5 15. dxc5 Qd6xc5 16. a4 d4
    17. cxd4 Nc6xd4 18. axb5 axb5 19. Be2xb5 Nd4xb5 20. Ra1a8 Kc8b7 21. Ra8xd8 Rh8xd8
    22. Qd1xd8 Nf6d5 23. Rf1a1 Qc5f2 24. Qd8a8 Kb7b6 25. Ra1a6 1-0


    Paul Leggett
  2. 10 Sep '09 00:52
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    [pgn][Event "Open invite"][/pgn]

    Hi All,

    I somehow managed to swindle this game, but my opponent thoroughly outplayed me for most of the game. Instead of playing my normal (and superficially obvious) 3. e3, I followed a database-driven recommendation and and suffered in purgatory for many moves until I was saved by the grace of Caissa. It certain ...[text shortened]... had nothing to do with justice! Props to my opponent in spite of the result.

    Paul Leggett
    I assume you had black and timed the guy out? Well done!
  3. 10 Sep '09 01:00
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    [pgn][Event "Open invite"][/pgn]

    Hi All,

    I somehow managed to swindle this game, but my opponent thoroughly outplayed me for most of the game. Instead of playing my normal (and superficially obvious) 3. e3, I followed a database-driven recommendation and and suffered in purgatory for many moves until I was saved by the grace of Caissa. It certain ...[text shortened]... 6d5 23. Rf1a1 Qc5f2 24. Qd8a8 Kb7b6 25. Ra1a6 1-0


    Paul Leggett
  4. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Sep '09 01:00
    Thank you very much!
  5. 10 Sep '09 01:02
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    Thank you very much!
    No problem pal.
  6. 10 Sep '09 01:30
    Bxb5,,, was that good ?
  7. 10 Sep '09 01:38 / 2 edits
    I think e3 is the way to go. It prevents the doubled pawns. Follow that up with h3, black must take the knight, unless he wants to lose his bishop.

    I used the idea in this game that just finished today:



    I learned alot about this position by watching the polar bear videos on you tube.

    I think black missed something by not playing 18.Nc2. It seems to me that he would have at least won the exchange.
  8. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Sep '09 02:01
    Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
    Bxb5,,, was that good ?
    He should have captured with the Queen- the move is still "relatively "best, but not nearly as good after the queen capture.
  9. 10 Sep '09 02:47 / 3 edits
    I don't think e3 is so great. In move, Black as done thing while white was developping. and doubled pawn are no always weak.


    Nc3 is a mistake, d4 was better.

    Beautifull move... Bxb5, now that something very good.

    Good move pal. white was better since that sacrifice
  10. 10 Sep '09 02:58 / 8 edits
    Many of us have games they should have lost.... but the opponent was not carefull. recently, I just tried to sac a pawn, when I was pawn behind to give myself an open line and end up with a exchange sacrifice. I should never won like that.

    So what aobut this game. I've just finished.

    At move latest move, I consider all move and decided to try some, I found a brilliant sacrifice. Rxf4.... with it... I think this game show the vulnerabily of the king. Black player all the game without his rook and his queen knight. he can't give me odds. I prolong it to the mate for show

  11. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Sep '09 03:38
    I think you hit it right on the head- you played up a rook and knight on your opponent, because they never moved. To me, the White position was aesthetically pleasing as well, as the center really was where the action was, and the white pieces always had somewhere to go. I'm going to have to look at it further to fully appreciate it, because I can detect nuances without yet figuring them out.
  12. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    10 Sep '09 09:35
    Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
    I don't think e3 is so great. In move, Black as done thing while white was developping. and doubled pawn are no always weak.


    Nc3 is a mistake, d4 was better.

    Beautifull move... Bxb5, now that something very good.

    Good move pal. white was better since that sacrifice
    No, e3 is the correct move to play in that situation. The problem with those doubled pawns is that they tend to immobilize the king side pawn cluster, which matters a lot if black castles kingside as you want to be able to attack with them. With black castling queenmside it's nice to have the f3 square clear for the light squared bishop.

    I tend to agree about Nc3, but that knight's always a problem in Bird's opening with a queenside fianchetto.
  13. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Sep '09 15:28
    A European Master Olga Sikorova (rated2250-2300 FIDE) played with the "exf3" method twice in my database, winning one and losing one. I was attracted to the idea because of a similar position in the King's Indian Attack (my bread and butter opening) where Karpov recommended recapturing with the e-pawn instead of the g2 bishop because the doubled pawns controlled valuable central squares, and because white would be able to eventually trade off the forward f-pawn for Black's e- or g- pawn.

    I have always preferred playing e3 in Bird's in response to the "recipe" ...Bg4 because I value winning bishop for knight without having to make any positional concessions. I still prefer playing e3, but there are certainly good players who think otherwise.

    Paul