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  1. 17 Jul '07 21:44
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
  2. Subscriber LordofADown
    King of all Hills
    17 Jul '07 21:45 / 1 edit
    2. f4

    2. Nc3

    2. d4
  3. 17 Jul '07 21:46
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    1.e4...e5
    2.f4
  4. 17 Jul '07 23:00
    Black can avoid with 1...c5 or 1...e6 or 1...d5
    White can play 1.d4 or 1.Nf3
    After 1.e4 e5
    2.Bc4, 2.g6 or even 2.d3 if your desperate!
  5. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    17 Jul '07 23:25
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    Out of morbid curiosity, why do you want to avoid it?
  6. Standard member thesonofsaul
    King of the Ashes
    17 Jul '07 23:27
    You don't want to avoid this if you really want to get good. There are no lasting tricks in this game. Master this opening and you will open the door to understanding all openings.
  7. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    18 Jul '07 00:03
    Originally posted by thesonofsaul
    You don't want to avoid this if you really want to get good. There are no lasting tricks in this game. Master this opening and you will open the door to understanding all openings.
    I tend to agree, but an easy way of avoiding the king's pawn game is to push a different pawn on move 1.
  8. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    18 Jul '07 01:39
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    After 1. e4 e5, there are plenty of games that continue without 2. Nf3 Nc6. For example:

    2. Nc6 (Vienna Game)
    2. f4 (King's Gambit)
    2. d4 (Danish Gambit)
  9. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    18 Jul '07 01:40 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    2...f5! (Latvian Gambit)

  10. 19 Jul '07 18:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    If you like to attack as quickly as possible, then play 2 f4 (The King's Gambit).

    If you prefer a more positional game, then play 2 Bc4 (The Bishop's Opening).

    On the other hand, if you really want to improve you might want to heed the advice of some guy named Kasparov who once said that if you haven't played the Ruy Lopez (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5) you haven't really played chess.
  11. 19 Jul '07 19:15
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    I assume you mean as black. Just play the petrov 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6.
  12. Standard member Red Night
    RHP Prophet
    19 Jul '07 22:35
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    I tend to agree, but an easy way of avoiding the king's pawn game is to push a different pawn on move 1.
    I have to agree with sonofsaul and deep thought here.

    Do you want to avoid it as black or white.