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    17 Jul '07 21:44
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
  2. Standard memberLordofADown
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    17 Jul '07 21:451 edit
    2. f4

    2. Nc3

    2. d4
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    17 Jul '07 21:46
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    1.e4...e5
    2.f4
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    17 Jul '07 23:00
    Black can avoid with 1...c5 or 1...e6 or 1...d5
    White can play 1.d4 or 1.Nf3
    After 1.e4 e5
    2.Bc4, 2.g6 or even 2.d3 if your desperate!
  5. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    17 Jul '07 23:25
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    Out of morbid curiosity, why do you want to avoid it?
  6. Standard memberthesonofsaul
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    17 Jul '07 23:27
    You don't want to avoid this if you really want to get good. There are no lasting tricks in this game. Master this opening and you will open the door to understanding all openings.
  7. Standard memberDeepThought
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    18 Jul '07 00:03
    Originally posted by thesonofsaul
    You don't want to avoid this if you really want to get good. There are no lasting tricks in this game. Master this opening and you will open the door to understanding all openings.
    I tend to agree, but an easy way of avoiding the king's pawn game is to push a different pawn on move 1.
  8. Standard memberwittywonka
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    18 Jul '07 01:39
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    After 1. e4 e5, there are plenty of games that continue without 2. Nf3 Nc6. For example:

    2. Nc6 (Vienna Game)
    2. f4 (King's Gambit)
    2. d4 (Danish Gambit)
  9. Standard memberDutch Defense
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    18 Jul '07 01:402 edits
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    2...f5! (Latvian Gambit)

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    19 Jul '07 18:591 edit
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    If you like to attack as quickly as possible, then play 2 f4 (The King's Gambit).

    If you prefer a more positional game, then play 2 Bc4 (The Bishop's Opening).

    On the other hand, if you really want to improve you might want to heed the advice of some guy named Kasparov who once said that if you haven't played the Ruy Lopez (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5) you haven't really played chess.
  11. 127.0.0.1
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    19 Jul '07 19:15
    Originally posted by Dance Master MC
    1.e4, e5
    2.Ng1-f3, Nb8-c6

    any other openings thhat are useful so I can avoid this?
    I assume you mean as black. Just play the petrov 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6.
  12. Standard memberRed Night
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    19 Jul '07 22:35
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    I tend to agree, but an easy way of avoiding the king's pawn game is to push a different pawn on move 1.
    I have to agree with sonofsaul and deep thought here.

    Do you want to avoid it as black or white.
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