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[Event "rated standard match"]
[Site "Free Internet Chess Server"]
[Date "2007.07.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "hammster"]
[Black "adamponting"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1613"]
[BlackElo "1684"]
[ECO "C36"]
[TimeControl "1200+5"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nf2 Be7 7. Bc4 O-O 8. d3 Bb4+ 9. c3 Re8+ 10. Kd2 Ne4+ 11. Nxe4 Rxe4 12. Kc2 Rxc4 13. dxc4 Bf5+ 14. Kb3 Qf6 15. cxb4 a5 16. Bxf4 axb4 17. Bg5 Qd6 18. Qxd6 cxd6 {adamponting resigns} 1-0



I was playing this game on Fics tonight. I was white here. I am threating mate on the bank rank and his queen with my bishop. I'm up the exchange and a bishop and will win an endgame. Black had 15 minutes on his clock and spent 20 seconds before he played Qd6, allowing me to exchange queens and take all the pressure off of my king. he resigned 1 move later. I was astonished when i looked after the game and saw he had mate. I know the winning move is hard to see, very hard, and seeing that he had a mate(in 10, mind you), he would never see, but why give up. Only 20 seconds? I just can't understand how you could only spend 20 seconds.

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Oh jeez. Mate in 10? Care to share? I'm guessing it involves putting a rook on a3 somehow.

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Originally posted by McDutchy
Oh jeez. Mate in 10? Care to share? I'm guessing it involves putting a rook on a3 somehow.
Yep. During the game I never thought about this move but now, it really seems like its blacks only move.

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Ra3 bxa3 Qc3

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I think it starts with:
17...Ra3 18.bxa3 Qc3+ 19. Ka4 Qxa3+ 20.Kb5 c6+

(edit: nope, white gets away with this line. I've checked with an engine and the mate is really pretty hard.)

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It takes just four moves to see that Black should win (and I wouldn't go looking for mate in ten if I can easily get large enough material advantage here). White is forced to sacrifice the queen and the knight after: 1...Ra3+ 2.bxa Qc3+ 3.Ka4 Bd7+ 4.Qxd7 Nxd7 and since Black threatens 5...Qxa3+ and 6...c6# Now White has to play 5.Ne5 (all else quickly leads to mate in few moves, e.g. [ 5.axb Nb6+ 6.Ka5 Qa3+ 7.Kb5 Qa6+ 8.Kc5 Qxc4 # ]). Now if you want to get pedantic the mate in question is this one I guess: 5...Nb6+ 6.Kb5 Qxe5+ 7. c5 Qe2+ 8.Ka5 Qa6+ 9.Kxb4 Qc4+ 10.Ka5 Qa4 #.

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here's what I got:

Ra3+ [bxa3 Qc3+ Ka4 Bc2+] Kxb4 Qxb2+ Kc5 Ra5+

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Originally posted by hammster21
[Event "rated standard match"]
[Site "Free Internet Chess Server"]
[Date "2007.07.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "hammster"]
[Black "adamponting"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1613"]
[BlackElo "1684"]
[ECO "C36"]
[TimeControl "1200+5"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nf2 Be7 7. Bc4 O-O 8. d3 Bb4+ 9. c3 Re8+ 10. Kd2 Ne4+ 11. Nxe ...[text shortened]... 20 seconds? I just can't understand how you could only spend 20 seconds.
I saw Ra3+ very quickly, nothing else makes sense.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
I saw Ra3+ very quickly, nothing else makes sense.
Of course you saw it, I'm not as skilled as you are. Plus it's always easier to point out your mistakes after the game then during.

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Ra3 Kxb4 at least makes the opponent think for mate. letting the queen get in there will be mate faster or at least allow your opponent to use less time to think of a move. when in a timed game i often make weird sacrafices when we are both low on time. they get too cought up thinking about the sacrafice their time often runs out.

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Originally posted by hammster21
Of course you saw it, I'm not as skilled as you are. Plus it's always easier to point out your mistakes after the game then during.
I probably would have missed it in a game too, but posed as a puzzle it seems simple.

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Doesn't anyone else think its strange if your opponent who has "donated" pieces to you like a 1500 player suddenly finds a forced mate in 10 moves at rapid chess like Vishy Anand?

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Originally posted by z00t
Doesn't anyone else think its strange if your opponent who has "donated" pieces to you like a 1500 player suddenly finds a forced mate in 10 moves at rapid chess like Vishy Anand?
ya, that would be strange, but what does that have to do with this game?

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1...Ra3+ 2.Kxb4 Qxb2+ 3.Qb3 (3.Kc5 Qb6 4.Kd5 Qd6# ) Na6+ 4.Kb5 Bd7#

or

1...Ra3+ 2.bxa3 Qc3+ 3.Ka4 Bd7+ 4.Qxd7 Nxd7 5.any Qxa3+ 6.Kb5 c6#

how do you get 10 moves?

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Originally posted by aginis
how do you get 10 moves?
Thats what Chessmaster told me. I tried a few different lines but would have gotten mated sooner.