Originally posted by najdorfslayerAgreed...
If you are to sudy the K-K games then I can't believe you can say Karpov is better end game player than Kasparov I would say they are about on a par with each other!
Just becuase GK was a great attacker doesn't mean he wasn't still one of the best end game players around.
I put Karpov on the list because of Mednis' book years ago singing praises to Karpov's endgame technique.
I'm not doubting GK's endgame ability; it's just not the first thing I think of when Kasparov's name is mentioned-- the same with Tal and Alekhine.
I guess leaving out Fischer, Botvinnik, and Lasker could be seen as terrible exemptions also, which would be a good point also!
Rubenstein arguably the finest most complete and most accurate chess endgame player of all time in competitive chess ,with anyone of the above mentioned candidates filling the remaining positions. So closely are they matched in endgame knowledge that placing them in any specific order is quite probably impossible. Capablanca is however an obvious candidate for placing at number 2 or 3.----------
Originally posted by caissad4If they have to be in an order then this is pretty close.
1 Akiba Rubenstein
2 Jose Capablanca
3 Emanuel Lasker
4 Vassily Smyslov
5 Seigbert Tarrasch
Glad to see someone else thinks Tarrasch should be up there.
Did not see Botvinnik mentioned. He was an excellent end game player.
Make Botvinnik number 6.
Now we have table bases for every ending and every position then
Fritz11/Rybka must be classed as strongest. They will never blunder.
Though how they use their table bases is not chess.
I'm still amused at a story I read in NIC.
A computer was a pawn and piece up and winning easily.
Suddenly it recognised a won position in it's table base.
So it sacced the piece and pawn to get to this won level ending thus
protacting the game by about 20 moves.
Originally posted by greenpawn34But it still won?
If they have to be in an order then this is pretty close.
Glad to see someone else thinks Tarrasch should be up there.
Did not see Botvinnik mentioned. He was an excellent end game player.
Make Botvinnik number 6.
Now we have table bases for every ending and every position then
Fritz11/Rybka must be classed as strongest. They will never blunde ...[text shortened]... he piece and pawn to get to this won level ending thus
protacting the game by about 20 moves.
What about Bobby? I thought he was a world class end game dude.
