1. Joined
    03 Mar '05
    Moves
    21495
    23 Feb '06 21:38
    this is a carry-over from the blitz strategy thread- Wulebgr mentioned this opening and I'd like to hear some opinions on it. I googled it and found David Gedault's opening on chessgames, but not much more solid info. what are the themes of this seemingly insane opening? is it refuted?

    I want to learn it just so I can say I play THE HAMMERSCHLAG. such a name deserves all caps.
  2. Edmonton, Alberta
    Joined
    25 Nov '04
    Moves
    2101
    23 Feb '06 21:44
    A master at our club playes that now and then just to bug his opponents. Sort of like O, i can play these crappy moves and still beat you.

    I think it's degrading to the other player.
  3. 127.0.0.1
    Joined
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    Moves
    158564
    23 Feb '06 22:16
    I might have to give it a go in blitz. We play tons of blitz at our club, so it's nice to have some variation from my standard openings. I generally throw in a grob or orangutan to mix things up. I'll have to try this next time. Honestly it looks like something that Steinitz would think up.

    THE KING IS A FIGHTING PIECE!
  4. Standard memberWulebgr
    Angler
    River City
    Joined
    08 Dec '04
    Moves
    16907
    24 Feb '06 18:35
    I offer four games in which I've employed the openin. In my only CC game, my opponent hung his queen, and in the second game here I was checkmated on move 11. Enjoy.

    [Event "AUTO-ADV-90"]
    [Site "http://www.queenalice.com/gam"]
    [Date "2005.10.11"]
    [Round "1"]
    [White "Wulebgr"]
    [Black "pedrinhoIII"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "A00"]
    [PlyCount "25"]
    [EventDate "2005.??.??"]
    [SourceDate "2003.01.01"]

    1. f3 e5 2. Kf2 Bc5+ 3. e3 Qg5 4. Nc3 f5 5. Nh3 f4 6. Nxg5 fxe3+ 7. dxe3 d6 8.
    Nge4 Nf6 9. Nxc5 dxc5 10. Bb5+ c6 11. Be2 O-O 12. Qd6 e4 13. Bc4+ 1-0

    [Event "rated blitz match "]
    [Site "freechess.org"]
    [Date "2005.11.06"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Wulebgr"]
    [Black "ChaacMol"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [ECO "A00"]
    [WhiteElo "1542"]
    [BlackElo "1519"]
    [PlyCount "22"]
    [EventDate "2005.??.??"]
    [SourceDate "2003.01.01"]
    [TimeControl "180"]

    1. f3 c5 2. Kf2 Nf6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Qd1 b6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nd2 Bb7 8.
    Bg5 Bc5+ 9. e3 Ng4+ 10. fxg4 Qxg5 11. Ne4 Qxe3# {Wulebgr checkmated} 0-1

    [Event "rated blitz match "]
    [Site "freechess.org"]
    [Date "2005.10.15"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Wulebgr"]
    [Black "PawnMau"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "A00"]
    [WhiteElo "1665"]
    [BlackElo "1584"]
    [PlyCount "49"]
    [EventDate "2005.??.??"]
    [SourceDate "2003.01.01"]
    [TimeControl "180"]

    1. f3 d6 2. Kf2 Nf6 3. d4 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 c5 6. dxc5 Qa5 7. cxd6 O-O 8. d7
    Bxd7 9. Bd2 Bc6 10. Nd5 Qd8 11. Bc4 Nxd5 12. exd5 Bxd5 13. Bxd5 Qxd5 14. Be3
    Qb5 15. Rb1 Nc6 16. Ne2 Rad8 17. Qe1 Bd4 18. Nxd4 Nxd4 19. c3 Nc2 20. Qe2 Nxe3
    21. Qxb5 Nf5 22. Rhe1 Rd7 23. Qxd7 Nd6 24. Rxe7 Nf5 25. Rbe1 {PawnMau resigns}
    1-0

    [Event "rated blitz match "]
    [Site "freechess.org"]
    [Date "2005.10.24"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Wulebgr"]
    [Black "bashandash"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "A00"]
    [WhiteElo "1566"]
    [BlackElo "1493"]
    [PlyCount "47"]
    [EventDate "2005.??.??"]
    [SourceDate "2003.01.01"]
    [TimeControl "180"]

    1. f3 d5 2. Kf2 c5 3. e3 Nc6 4. c3 e5 5. Bb5 d4 6. cxd4 cxd4 7. Ne2 Bc5 8. d3
    Nge7 9. e4 O-O 10. Nd2 f5 11. a3 Be6 12. b4 Bb6 13. Bc4 Qd7 14. Bxe6+ Qxe6 15.
    Qb3 Qxb3 16. Nxb3 fxe4 17. Nc5 Bxc5 18. bxc5 exd3 19. Ng3 e4 20. Nxe4 Nd5 21.
    Rd1 Rae8 22. Kg3 Nf4 23. Bxf4 h6 24. Bd6 {bashandash resigns} 1-0
  5. Somewhere out there!
    Joined
    09 Nov '04
    Moves
    2700
    24 Feb '06 21:04
    I tried the following a couple of times, but I think it is refuted 😉

    Elvis opening
    1.c3 ... one for the money!
    2. f3 ... two for the show...
    3. Kf2 ... three to get ready.
    4. Ke3 ... GO!
    5. Kd3... King!
    6. Kc2 ... GO!

    Though I have won a few (horrible) blitz games with it it can easily be refuted by normal play,
    example1:
    1.f2-f3 e7-e5 2.c2-c3 d7-d5 3.Ke1-f2 Bf8-c5+ 4.d2-d4 e5xd4 5.c3xd4 Qd8-h4+ 6.g2-g3 Qh4xd4+ {one of my opponents played Bxd4 here and lost}

    example 2, I actually had this on the board against a much lower player, and I won XD
    1.f2-f3 e7-e5 2.c2-c3 d7-d5 3.Ke1-f2 Nb8-c6 4.Kf2-e3 Qd8-g5+ 5.Ke3-d3 Bc8-f5+ 6.e2-e4 d5xe4+ 7.Kd3-c2 {yay made it ^^} e4xf3+ 8.d2-d3 f3xg2 9.Bf1xg2 Qg5xg2+ 10.Ng1-e2 (computer says +11 in his advantage now)



    so, why play it? because its just fun to win in such a humiliating way 😛
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