To all those people who were chess players in the glory days, i.e. before computers could wipe the floor with everyone, do you think that chess has lost some of its magic?
By the time I started playing Deep Blue had been sold for parts and I can't help but feel a little sad that I missed out on the days when a move was beautiful rather than just correct.
Originally posted by JusuhI'd be willing to wager heavily against this ever happening. For two reasons, really; one, it would actually have to be able to 'solve' chess (which given the total number of possible positions, will likely never truly be possible - though with pruning it's a somewhat simpler job); and more importantly, because white to move on move 1 is probably a draw. 🙂
yes. computers are slowly killing the chess. sooner or later there will be a computer which finds a forced win for white on move 1.
Originally posted by KnightloreHypothetically , take a typical chess player and give them access to a computer that plays chess perfectly. Let them study this for 10 years.
Now, take that player and let them play a match against, e.g., Morphy, who obviously didn't get access to such theory.
I know which player my money would be on. Then we'd see the magic of chess versus the myth that memorisation is the key.
I really do not like chess engines. For one, they won't let you play games like this:
Game 2781914
Originally posted by JusuhIf computers are "killing" chess, then how come more people than ever are playing it? I believe that computers have helped chess to grow and become more popular.
yes. computers are slowly killing the chess. sooner or later there will be a computer which finds a forced win for white on move 1.
i didn't live in the "glory days" but i don't think computers are ruining chess. computers are computers and men are men. if a computer can figure out how to beat you no matter what, people aren't just going to say "ok game over, not point in playing anymore". it's a computer! i find much more satisfaction in beating a friend than in beating some random free chess engine i salvaged. there's a huge separation in my mind between human chess and computer chess. and since no human person can win ALL THE TIME, then chess will always be the immortal game.
Originally posted by PiisgoodChess engines can play better - and you've posted that game twice now, we've already seen it.
I really do not like chess engines. For one, they won't let you play games like this:
Game 2781914