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15 Dec '12 17:181 edit

White's move now, but he got disconnected. Out of despair?

I still think that after
1. Kc1 12 2. Ra6 Black is lost.

edit>> not a big deal; just a Blitz game few minutes ago
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15 Dec '12 18:385 edits
Originally posted by vandervelde
[fen]8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - -[/fen]

White's move now, but he got disconnected. Out of despair?

I still think that after
1. Kc1 12 2. Ra6 Black is lost.

edit>> not a big deal; just a Blitz game few minutes ago
I think I would prefer 1.Kd3 blocking in the black king.
No, my thinking was backward, you are right.
I was thinking the pawns were going up the board instead of down.
Why, I don't know.

That would make my move really Ke6. I am still getting used to using algebraic notation after using descriptive for so long. That's like 1.P-K4 P-K4. After going back to OTB play my scorecard is always screwed up now.
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15 Dec '12 19:022 edits
Originally posted by vandervelde
[fen]8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - -[/fen]

White's move now, but he got disconnected. Out of despair?

I still think that after
1. Kc1 12 2. Ra6 Black is lost.

edit>> not a big deal; just a Blitz game few minutes ago
Not sure of the actual sequence here, 1 K-c1, a2? How does white stop the pawn? If it advances it stops the king going in, seems the rook has to come over to attack the a pawn then the king gets to b2. and then with the king at b2, the other pawn can come down. Looks to me like the rook goes away stopping the pawn from queening.

If the rook takes pawn check it is a draw because the white king gets to b2, takes a pawn, classical draw, only kings on the board.
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15 Dec '12 19:031 edit
Originally posted by sonhouse
Not sure of the actual sequence here, 1 K-c1, a2? How does white stop the pawn? If it advances it stops the king going in, seems the rook has to come over to attack the a pawn then the king gets to b2. and then with the king at b2, the other pawn can come down. Looks to me like the rook goes away stopping the pawn from queening.

If the rook takes pawn check it is a draw.
FEN 8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1
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[FEN "8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1"]
1.Kc1 a2 2.Ra6 {is how white stops the pawn}
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15 Dec '12 19:041 edit
Originally posted by SwissGambit
[pgn]
[FEN "8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1"]
1.Kc1 a2 2.Ra7 {is how white stops the pawn}
[/pgn]
You need to check your pgn. I get it, king has to move out, goodbye pawn.
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15 Dec '12 19:05
Originally posted by sonhouse
You need to check your pgn
Some people just want you to do everything for them. 😞
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15 Dec '12 19:061 edit
Originally posted by SwissGambit
Some people just want you to do everything for them. 😞
🙂 I see the thing, king has to go out and it loses protection on pawn.
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15 Dec '12 19:10
Originally posted by sonhouse
Not sure of the actual sequence here, 1 K-c1, a2? How does white stop the pawn? If it advances it stops the king going in, seems the rook has to come over to attack the a pawn then the king gets to b2. and then with the king at b2, the other pawn can come down. Looks to me like the rook goes away stopping the pawn from queening.

If the rook takes pawn ch ...[text shortened]... a draw because the white king gets to b2, takes a pawn, classical draw, only kings on the board.
After 1. Kc1 a2? 2. Ra6 or 1. K-QB1 P-R7 2. R-QR6
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15 Dec '12 19:14
Black can't even escape by playing for stalemate.

EVENT ?
SITE ?
DATE ????.??.??
ROUND ?
WHITE ?
BLACK ?
RESULT 0-1
FEN 8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1
SETUP 1
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "15"]
1. Kc1 Ka2 2. Rxb4 Ka1 3. Kc2 a2 {3... Ka2? 4. Ra4 Ka1 5. Rxa3#} 4. Kb3 Kb1 5. Rh4 a1=N+ 6. Kc3 Ka2 7. Rh7 Kb1 8. Rh2 {and black will lose the N followed quickly by mate.} 0-1
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15 Dec '12 19:35
Originally posted by sonhouse
Not sure of the actual sequence here, 1 K-c1, a2? How does white stop the pawn? If it advances it stops the king going in, seems the rook has to come over to attack the a pawn then the king gets to b2. and then with the king at b2, the other pawn can come down. Looks to me like the rook goes away stopping the pawn from queening.

If the rook takes pawn ch ...[text shortened]... a draw because the white king gets to b2, takes a pawn, classical draw, only kings on the board.
If it were Black to move first it would be a draw like you said. Or if white moved 1.Kd3 thinking the pawns were going in the other direction like me and then discovered he was wrong, then it would be a draw.
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16 Dec '12 15:24
Thanks for the comments.
It would have been (maybe) interesting to see the whole game - two patzers: I had a Laufer plus thanks to his oversight but I managed to overlook even more as we approached the ending.
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16 Dec '12 15:26
Originally posted by RJHinds
If it were Black to move first it would be a draw like you said. Or if white moved 1.Kd3 thinking the pawns were going in the other direction like me and then discovered he was wrong, then it would be a draw.
That would have been a "just result"... 😉

EVENT	?
SITE	?
DATE	????.??.??
ROUND	?
WHITE	?
BLACK	?
RESULT	0-1
FEN	8/8/1R6/8/1p6/pk6/3K4/8 w - - 0 1
SETUP	1

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