1. e4
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    White to play and Force Black to mate White in 5 moves.



    I'm on 1.Be6 and have it solved for 1..fxe6 and 1...f6 but cannot solve 1...f5.





    cannot get this one. 1...f4

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    @greenpawn34

    I might have it... definitely double check me, though. I think black's moves after f5 are all only moves.

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    These are called "Selfmates".

    "Helpmate" usually means that white and black collaborate to checkmate black.
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    Hi spidey widey,

    Yes that must be it. I was to fixated keeping the White King on f1.
    The stipulation said mate had to happen on or before Black's fifth move,
    a bit misleading unless there is a quicker forced mate. We have five moves.

    It is from the lastest CHESS (there is prize but it would have been won by now).

    Hi BigDoggProblem,

    Yes, I always get them mixed up. Though the thread title works.

    It was composed by Andrei Selivanov in 2000. Good!

    Maybe you can rescue the thread by giving us a Helpmate....please do...and not too hard.
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    @greenpawn34 said
    Hi spidey widey,

    Yes that must be it. I was to fixated keeping the White King on f1.
    The stipulation said mate had to happen on or before Black's fifth move,
    a bit misleading unless there is a quicker forced mate. We have five moves.

    It is from the lastest CHESS (there is prize but it would have been won by now).

    Hi BigDoggProblem,

    Yes, I always get them mix ...[text shortened]... . Good!

    Maybe you can rescue the thread by giving us a Helpmate....please do...and not too hard.
    OK...

    G. Backsi

    Helpmate in 2, 2 solutions

    Black moves first. White's 2nd move should be mate.
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    @bigdoggproblem said
    OK...

    G. Backsi
    [fen]8/8/7K/8/1R6/k7/1R1p4/2b2N2[/fen]
    Helpmate in 2, 2 solutions

    Black moves first. White's 2nd move should be mate.
    Found one at least:

    Reveal Hidden Content


    I guess pgn's can't be hidden lol
    Second one is a toughie...
    EDIT: OK just got it Reveal Hidden Content
    it requires a horsey promotion
  7. Standard memberBigDogg
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    So maybe that last one was a bit too easy. Here's another that's a little bit harder:


    Helpmate in 6
  8. e4
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    Never had a chance to get the last one, got this copied for me to do at work!
  9. e4
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    I think I have it.
  10. Standard memberBigDogg
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    @greenpawn34

    That's it.

    The main challenge is to get a white pawn promoted without stalemate!
  11. e4
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    Hi BigDoggProblem

    Which of course happened on an earlier attempt.

  12. Standard memberBigDogg
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    That last one was also by G. Backsi.

    Here's another one:


    F. Chlubna

    Helpmate in 5
  13. e4
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    05 Oct '20 21:481 edit
    I think I have this one as well. it's a sister to the Selfmate I had in
    the blog where a Black Knight shields the Black King from White Rooks.
    This time the Black Knight shields the White King from Rooks. This one is excellent.



    the blog helpmate.

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    @greenpawn34 said
    I think I have this one as well. it's a sister to the Selfmate I had in
    the blog where a Black Knight shields the Black King from White Rooks.
    This time the Black Knight shields the White King from Rooks. This one is excellent.

    [pgn]
    [Event "?"]
    [Site "?"]
    [Date "????.??.??"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "?"]
    [Black "?"]
    [Result "*"]
    [SetUp "1"]
    [FEN "8/1B6/2r2n2/K ...[text shortened]... sk of repeating myself, Black has no choice but to play...} 13... Nxe2 {Checkmate. Brilliant.}[/pgn]
    The theme is a "Rundlauf" - the Black Knight returns to the square where it started.

    I learned about this problem while trying to compose my own helpmate with a Knight Rundlauf and check screening. This one was much more economical [meaning, less material on the board] as well as shorter [less wasted/non-thematic moves] than mine!
  15. e4
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    Hi BigDoggProblem

    I never noticed the Black Knight ends up on it's original square.
    This makes it all the more amazing.

    I got the idea for that one fairly quickly.
    It was the placing of the f6 Knight and why was it there.
    (it is how I have stumbled upon a few solutions....what is that piece there for.)


    I saw if the f6 Knight went to g4 then the King is in a mating net
    waiting for Bxc6. Then it's just a matter of getting the White King to e1
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