19 Oct '12 13:19>
Hi Paul.
"That's very similar to the cheap trap (2. ... c6) in the Trompowsky. "
I've pulled this answer out of that other thread. It's another one that has gone haywire.
Let's try and get one thread going that stays on Chess. (at least for a little while.)
I would not call the trap in the Trompowsky ‘cheap’.
No such thing as a cheap trap unless you can show me an expensive one. 🙂
I’d call it a trick (a trap that just happens to be there.)
The Tromp Trick.
Black has just played 2…c6 hoping for 3.e3 Qa5+ picking up the g5 Bishop.
…..has been tried 51 times RHP and has caught only one victim.
In lesstaire6 - the woodchopper RHP 2007 Game 3769391
Black had the chance to nick the g5 Bishop but played 3…Qb6 instead.
The magic lure of the b-pawn being more important than winning the Bishop.
Black went on to lose.
The one success was mkupper - petromichelaki RHP 2008 Game 5691345
Black did indeed play 3…Qa5+ winning the g5 Bishop and then went onto lose! 🙂
(so on here the record for this one is even worse that The Duck’s 0% trap.)
The Combe Trick.
1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Nf3 e5 4.Nxe5 Qa5+
Has caught 37 players on RHP. The player davaniel has two victims tucked under his belt.
You could also call this move order 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Nf3
The Morphy Trick, it is how he often played against the Sicilian.
The idea being, as happened in a few games, Black would play 3….e5 hoping
that Morphy would grab the e-pawn (he never did.)
It’s a kind of Positional Trick. Morphy tricks the guy into the type of position Morphy wants.
Morphy tempts Black into playing for a trap.
But after 3…e5 4.Bc4.
Morphy has the basic e4-e5 structure which he loved with c3 to follow.
It’s a wonder Morphy never stumbled upon the 3.c3 idea and the Morra Gambit, the
true strength of that move was analysed the 1930/40’s. Though Blackburne
dabbled with it in the 1870’s long after PCM stopped playing.
But to be honest PCM was not a trail blazer in gambit research, he just took
what was then known and refined it into mini works of art.
Few variations bear his name, why he got 3…a6 in the Lopez is beyond me.
Some sources do give Morphy’s name to the Morra Gambit but PCM only
played c3 after the e4 e5 structure.
(It’s like saying Morphy would have played The Morra Gambit had he known about it!)
34 of the 37 RHP games have been Black wins, here is a White win.
After winning the piece the Black pieces get into each others way and
soon retreat back to their original squares.
White picks up the Black Queen with a trick similar to the Kasparov - West
game I posted a few days ago.
thespacemonkey - KING OF EGYPT RHP 2006
The Kasparov Game
Kasparov - West Telechess Olympiad 1977.
"That's very similar to the cheap trap (2. ... c6) in the Trompowsky. "
I've pulled this answer out of that other thread. It's another one that has gone haywire.
Let's try and get one thread going that stays on Chess. (at least for a little while.)
I would not call the trap in the Trompowsky ‘cheap’.
No such thing as a cheap trap unless you can show me an expensive one. 🙂
I’d call it a trick (a trap that just happens to be there.)
The Tromp Trick.
Black has just played 2…c6 hoping for 3.e3 Qa5+ picking up the g5 Bishop.
…..has been tried 51 times RHP and has caught only one victim.
In lesstaire6 - the woodchopper RHP 2007 Game 3769391
Black had the chance to nick the g5 Bishop but played 3…Qb6 instead.
The magic lure of the b-pawn being more important than winning the Bishop.
Black went on to lose.
The one success was mkupper - petromichelaki RHP 2008 Game 5691345
Black did indeed play 3…Qa5+ winning the g5 Bishop and then went onto lose! 🙂
(so on here the record for this one is even worse that The Duck’s 0% trap.)
The Combe Trick.
1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Nf3 e5 4.Nxe5 Qa5+
Has caught 37 players on RHP. The player davaniel has two victims tucked under his belt.
You could also call this move order 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Nf3
The Morphy Trick, it is how he often played against the Sicilian.
The idea being, as happened in a few games, Black would play 3….e5 hoping
that Morphy would grab the e-pawn (he never did.)
It’s a kind of Positional Trick. Morphy tricks the guy into the type of position Morphy wants.
Morphy tempts Black into playing for a trap.
But after 3…e5 4.Bc4.
Morphy has the basic e4-e5 structure which he loved with c3 to follow.
It’s a wonder Morphy never stumbled upon the 3.c3 idea and the Morra Gambit, the
true strength of that move was analysed the 1930/40’s. Though Blackburne
dabbled with it in the 1870’s long after PCM stopped playing.
But to be honest PCM was not a trail blazer in gambit research, he just took
what was then known and refined it into mini works of art.
Few variations bear his name, why he got 3…a6 in the Lopez is beyond me.
Some sources do give Morphy’s name to the Morra Gambit but PCM only
played c3 after the e4 e5 structure.
(It’s like saying Morphy would have played The Morra Gambit had he known about it!)
34 of the 37 RHP games have been Black wins, here is a White win.
After winning the piece the Black pieces get into each others way and
soon retreat back to their original squares.
White picks up the Black Queen with a trick similar to the Kasparov - West
game I posted a few days ago.
thespacemonkey - KING OF EGYPT RHP 2006
The Kasparov Game
Kasparov - West Telechess Olympiad 1977.