29 Dec 05
Anybody out there with experience using or playing with Hiarcs 9? From the literature at Chessbase.com, it says it plays more like a human than any other game. Do you find this to be true? Why would I choose Hiarcs over Fritz 9, which is what (it seems) the rest of the chess world uses? I want to buy a chess program, but am having a heck of a time deciding. Maybe it's a case of using Hiarcs to play against and using Fritz to analyze? I'd love to hear from anyone with Hiarcs experience. Heck, gimme your two pawns advice if you own Fritz, too. It'll all help me.
29 Dec 05
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Originally posted by magnublmI've no idea about Hiarcs. There are comparisons of chess engines on the internet which you should investigate before spending any cash. You should also consider Crafty - it's not as good as the better commercial ones, but it has the big advantage of being free, so if you decide you want a stronger one you won't have wasted any money...
Anybody out there with experience using or playing with Hiarcs 9? From the literature at Chessbase.com, it says it plays more like a human than any other game. Do you find this to be true? Why would I choose Hiarcs over Fritz 9, which is what (it seems) the rest of the chess world uses? I want to buy a chess program, but am having a heck of a time deciding. iarcs experience. Heck, gimme your two pawns advice if you own Fritz, too. It'll all help me.
29 Dec 05
Originally posted by magnublmShredder 9 has my money. Nothing fancy as far as teaching, but if you want the best engine shredder is it for both play and analysis. There is no comparrison.
Anybody out there with experience using or playing with Hiarcs 9? From the literature at Chessbase.com, it says it plays more like a human than any other game. Do you find this to be true? Why would I choose Hiarcs over Fritz 9, which is what (it seems) the rest of the chess world uses? I want to buy a chess program, but am having a heck of a time deciding. ...[text shortened]... iarcs experience. Heck, gimme your two pawns advice if you own Fritz, too. It'll all help me.
RTh
29 Dec 05
Originally posted by RingtailhunterIs Shredder 9 actually stronger than Fritz? Also, does it really hold the crown for analysis? I always thought Fritz did.
Shredder 9 has my money. Nothing fancy as far as teaching, but if you want the best engine shredder is it for both play and analysis. There is no comparrison.
RTh
29 Dec 05
Originally posted by WulebgrWell if you want you can send me an unrated challenge and I will play shredder against your fritz, or Hiarcs (note in challenge engine please,7 day or something). Hopefully yours will lose faster than phlabibits fritz 8.
I have Hiarcs 9 and Fritz 8, and plan after the new year to buy F 9 and H 10. Both are excellent engines, and they are hard to tell apart more than 90% of the time.
29 Dec 05
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Originally posted by elohiym chananThis is the game phlabi and I have. It is an unrated game. Shredder 9 is black Fritz 8 is not.
I'd be interested in watching that unfold. Post the game number if you do it please.
Game 1609406
Fritz thinks its a draw. Shredder thinks it's winning. We'll see.
30 Dec 05
Originally posted by RingtailhunterI don't think that will prove anything as the machines are probably different.
Well if you want you can send me an [b]unrated challenge and I will play shredder against your fritz, or Hiarcs (note in challenge engine please,7 day or something). Hopefully yours will lose faster than phlabibits fritz 8.[/b]
Anyway, has anyone heard anything about Shredder 10? I understand that it will be released in the Spring.
30 Dec 05
Originally posted by exigentskyI have no interest in making computer moves without my influence, so it becomes a question of how we use the engines, as well as the speed of our processors, and the power of the engines.
I don't think that will prove anything as the machines are probably different.
Anyway, has anyone heard anything about Shredder 10? I understand that it will be released in the Spring.
It's called "advanced chess" and there's a lot of ink spilled on its behalf. See, for example, http://www.chessbase.com/events/events.asp?pid=133
30 Dec 05
Originally posted by magnublmI was suprised to see prodeo as low as 7. Running it under the shredder 9 GUI and using it's books it gave shredder a hell of a time.
I found this to be interesting reading:
Chess Engine comparison:
http://kd.lab.nig.ac.jp/chess/engine-tourney/
Shredder 9 vs. Fritz 9:
http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/posts/1132285373.shtml