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How could I have won!

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I had the feeling I could win this game, but lost it Game 592869😕

How could I have won this game? Help my analyse it.

NS
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Originally posted by Fylgja
I had the feeling I could win this game, but lost it Game 592869😕

How could I have won this game? Help my analyse it.
There is really not much to say here. You were up a piece, but overlooked his mate threat. The best way to avoid mate is probably with Qe4. It centralizes the queen, doubles up on the e file, and offers a queen trade, which you want since you're up a piece.

I did notice a trend in this game. Every time your opponent made a mistake, you countered with a mistake of your own. He drops a pawn with 5.....d5, and you give it right back with 8.d4. He doesn't recapture the knight on move 10, and you give him the knight right back with Nxf7 on the very next move. When you're up material, it isn't an excuse to play carelessly. If anything, play even more carefully, because you know that if you play correctly, you WILL win.

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Natural Science is correct that you could have played 21.Qe4 instead of 21.c4 to prevent the mate and offer the queen trade. OTOH, if you had done that, TomC could have played 21...Qxe4 22.Rxe4 Rgd3 and recovered the bishop he was down.

Playing 20.Qe4 instead of 20.Qh4 on the previous move looks like it would might have been better,, but then he still could have played 20...Rgd3 and he still could have won back the bishop, leaving him with a better endgame.

IMHO, the correct, last-chance, move would have been 19. Bxf6 threatening Qxg7#. TomC would have no alternative but to take your queen with Qxg4 and then you take his other rook with Bxd8, leaving you with two rooks and a bishop against his queen. His pawns are then slightly better than yours, but you should be able to win. It wouldn't be an easy win, but it should be there.

NS was right, though that you gave back every advantage that you got and that is where the game really went.

Best Regards,
Paul

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Originally posted by prn
Natural Science is correct that you could have played 21.Qe4 instead of 21.c4 to prevent the mate and offer the queen trade. OTOH, if you had done that, TomC could have played 21...Qxe4 22.Rxe4 Rgd3 and recovered the bishop he was down.

Playing 20.Qe4 instead of 20.Qh4 on the previous move looks like it would might have been better,, but then he still could ...[text shortened]... ck every advantage that you got and that is where the game really went.

Best Regards,
Paul
Of course 21.Qe4 was better than what was played. But by far not one of the better moves. Your remark on 21.Qe4 Qxe4 22.Rxe4 Rgd6 winning back the piece is not correct. White plays 23.Rd3 and can safely move the bishop after that. But with 22. ... c5 white would have to give back the bishop, only being a pawn up.

Better moves 21. were 21.g4 or 21.g3, blocking the rook from g2, or 21.f3 or 21.Re4 both blocking the queen from g2. The bishop will not be lost, unless with ample compensation, for instance like in 21.g3 c5? 22.Bxc5! Qxd1+ 23.Rxd1 Rxd1+ Kg2 leaving white with an easy win.

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thx for the help ... now I see that I'm still a rookie.

NS
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Originally posted by prn
Natural Science is correct that you could have played 21.Qe4 instead of 21.c4 to prevent the mate and offer the queen trade. OTOH, if you had done that, TomC could have played 21...Qxe4 22.Rxe4 Rgd3 and recovered the bishop he was down.

Playing 20.Qe4 instead of 20.Qh4 on the previous move looks like it would might have been better,, but then he still could ...[text shortened]... ck every advantage that you got and that is where the game really went.

Best Regards,
Paul
Whoops, my bad. I only looked at the position really quickly before going to bed. Yeah, 21Qe4 wasn't a good move.

PD

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
21.g3 c5? 22.Bxc5! Qxd1+ 23.Rxd1 Rxd1+ Kg2.
If I was going to be a stickler for dotting i's and crossing t's, I would leave the "+" off of 22... Qxd1+.

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