24 Dec '08 04:16>
Originally posted by lepustimidusIf you don't fancy throwing caution to the wind with the Traxler 4...Bc5!?, then probably 4...d5 5.exd5 Na5 is your best bet.
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I keep getting nailed by this when playing black.
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Bf1-c4 Ng8-f6 4. Nf3-g5 d7-d5 5. e4xd5 Nf6xd5 6. Ng5xf7 Ke8xf7 7. Qd1-f3 Kf7-g8 8. Bc4xd5 Bc8-e6 9. Bd5xe6 1-0
or variations which involve a white knight and bishop attacking the weak pawn at f7. Every time I try ...[text shortened]... terly. At best I've managed to escape only losing a rook, at worse I'm checkmated.
Advice?
Originally posted by lepustimidusOn my database 5. ... Nxd5 scores 73.6%. Meaning it is very good for white. Basically you need to play something else at move 5. Squelchbelch´s suggestion 5. ... Na5 is the most popular move, 5. ... b5 and 5. ... Nd4 have also been played and are fine.
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I keep getting nailed by this when playing black.
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Bf1-c4 Ng8-f6 4. Nf3-g5 d7-d5 5. e4xd5 Nf6xd5 6. Ng5xf7 Ke8xf7 7. Qd1-f3 Kf7-g8 8. Bc4xd5 Bc8-e6 9. Bd5xe6 1-0
or variations which involve a white knight and bishop attacking the weak pawn at f7. Every time I try ...[text shortened]... terly. At best I've managed to escape only losing a rook, at worse I'm checkmated.
Advice?
Originally posted by lepustimidusAfter white plays Bc4, Black can play Bc5 instead of Nf6. White cannot play Ng5 immediately because the queen is controlling the square. After White plays his next move, Black can develop his knight to f6 since Black will castle on the next move, even if White plays Ng5. Here is an example.
Sorry, for some reason the content didn't post.
I keep getting nailed by this when playing black.
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Bf1-c4 Ng8-f6 4. Nf3-g5 d7-d5 5. e4xd5 Nf6xd5 6. Ng5xf7 Ke8xf7 7. Qd1-f3 Kf7-g8 8. Bc4xd5 Bc8-e6 9. Bd5xe6 1-0
or variations which involve a white knight and bishop attacking the weak pawn at f7. Every time I try ...[text shortened]... terly. At best I've managed to escape only losing a rook, at worse I'm checkmated.
Advice?
Originally posted by AximiliBc5 is a fine alternative to Nf6, but it is not better. It is the Guico Piano (sp?) as opposed to the "two knights." I believe that Nf6 is considered slightly better on the whole, although it's more risky. Some people call Nf6 the "two knights attack" rather than the "two knights defense" even though it is played by black because Nf6 in the Italian game is more of a counter-attack than a defense.
After white plays Bc4, Black can play Bc5 instead of Nf6. White cannot play Ng5 immediately because the queen is controlling the square. After White plays his next move, Black can develop his knight to f6 since Black will castle on the next move, even if White plays Ng5. Here is an example.
[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d3 Nf6 5.Ng5 O-O[/pgn]