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How not to play openings with black

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Originally posted by giantrobot
Of course!! Qxf2+!!!! Unstoppable!! It was just to deep for me to see.
Eh? How is that mate?

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Quite so. However there is nothing wrong with agreeing with someone.
After all, if someone said that they had found the meaning of life to someone, the person to whom they were speaking to could very well respond with a retort such as "how delightful, pass the salt please".

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Why don't you just tell us how you mated from move 13 onward? I personlly think you're mistaken.

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
Why don't you just tell us how you mated from move 13 onward? I personlly think you're mistaken.
Exactly. I just want to hear the winning position.

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Especially as chessmaster plays it out

13.dxc6
Nxg2+ 14.Bxg2 Qd2+ 15.Kf1 b6 16.c7+ Kf8 17.Rd1 Qf4 18.Rd8+ Kg7

and black loses a rook.

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I'm pretty positive that he is mistaken. He's a 1200 player. I highly doubt he sees something that the rest of us are missing. Can anyone else find this supposed mate that is only avoidable by a substantial loss on white's part?

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Edit: Supposed scenario is said to start on black's 13th move.

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Just saving us all some time...

Game 2933146

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
Why don't you just tell us how you mated from move 13 onward? I personlly think you're mistaken.
It's called chess blindness. If we could magically remove the knight on e3 then 13 ..Qd2#. However, any possible 13th move by black that is not forcing, ie check, allows cxb2+. Neither Knight sac works, however. 13 ..Nxc2+ allows 14. Qxc2 covering the d2 square and 13..Nxg2+ and 14.Bxg2 opens up the safe light square f1.

I guess the champions of Nxg2+ think that even though the bishop takes on g2 it is also still on f1 as well.

Unfortunatley for black (even more unfortunate than his opening) the Knight is on e3 and his oponnent knows how to calculate two moves ahead.

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zakkwylder, admit you're wrong or man up and spill it.

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what's the deal with von bardelben's openings? His games are a mess, but he's obviously a better player than his first few moves would indicate.

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Hell, at least he's unique.

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
Hell, at least he's unique.
No, he's just dumb, there are better ways to be unique in chess.

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Like?

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
Like?
I'd say my openings are pretty unique - KG (adding the Ruy soon), Dragon, Grunfeld, and I have a couple of other things that I throw in every once in a while. If that's not unique enough I also use the Freak Attack against the Najdorf. Tell me one other person that has that same repertoire. And mine is actually solid.

Btw: Winning>Being unique and not knowing how to play