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How tactical is 1.e4?

How tactical is 1.e4?

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I find it harder to crush weaker players (at chess club) who, as white, play d4, I often find myself in trouble, where as white with e4 I crush them in like 20 moves. d4 is hard to take advantage when they play the london setup or something similar.

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Originally posted by rotk
I find it harder to crush weaker players (at chess club) who, as white, play d4, I often find myself in trouble, where as white with e4 I crush them in like 20 moves. d4 is hard to take advantage when they play the london setup or something similar.
Or the Old Benoni. 😀

(My choice against d4, by the way).

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
Or the Old Benoni. 😀

(My choice against d4, by the way).
GROSS.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Play the Queen's Gambit finally arrived today, and I am very pleased with it. Looking through it, one of the lines that Ward says which I found particularly interesting was this:

"Actually it really bugs me when 1.e4 players call 1.d4 boring, when the majority of their games are probably outings in the Petroff Defense or the Closed Spanish!"

He ment ...[text shortened]... and there appear to be some sharp Nimzo lines, like 4.f3!?. Am I right, or am I right? 😉
Yes, you are right. The "e4 is more tactical" is just some kind of fix idea. I'd say they are about equal. The orthodox queen's gambit is dry, but so are many lines of the spanish tjigorin. The dragon is sharp, but so is the benoni, grünfeld or king's indian. There are simply countless of examples to counter each supposedly sharp or dull system in the other branch.

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There is no boring openings, but only boring players 🙂

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I really like playing the queens gambit, this is a QGA game. Game 3433513 To me d4 creates more exciting and more chances for good tactics. 🙂

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
I always feel like, when I'm playing 1.e4, that the Caro-Kann is possibly the most boring opening ever.
You think so? The game can turn quite interesting after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.ed cd 4.c4. I'm not quite sure how is this variation called, but it's pretty interesting, the game is open and lots of tactics can be found. Of course this is only my opinion and for some this may seem boring.

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Originally posted by kbaumen
You think so? The game can turn quite interesting after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.ed cd 4.c4. I'm not quite sure how is this variation called, but it's pretty interesting, the game is open and lots of tactics can be found. Of course this is only my opinion and for some this may seem boring.

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Panov-Botvinnik Attack, it's not too bad.

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To quote Bobby Fischer in a game he annotated:


1. e4.....best by test.


To quote Guyala Breyer with his tongue in cheek annotation:

1. e4........with this premature bid for control of the center, white has over extended himself, his game is in it's final death throes.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Panov-Botvinnik Attack, it's not too bad.
I play this, because the transpositions from my English to a Slav/Catalan are messy and IMO favor black. That said, I really don't feel white gets a great game out of it unless black plays passively or doesn't castle.

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My devotion to the King's Indian Attack is enough for me to adhere to e4. Is e4 or d4 more tactical? Some great arguments have been made for d4, which would make one say that it really comes down to preference whether you play the sharp game or the strategical game. After all, there's the Modern Benoni for d4, but also the Colle and Catalan. There's the Sicilian Dragon for e4, but also the Four Knights Game and King's Indian Attack.

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Best opening for white.

1. F3 , followed by King F2.

It rocks.

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I don't play well enough to think any opening boring, but Fisher played the Ruy Lopez quite often, and I have never heard of his games being classified as boring.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Best opening for white.

1. F3 , followed by King F2.

It rocks.
Indeed, but I prefer using 1. f3 2. g4

I wonder why my rating isn't higher....

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Play the Queen's Gambit finally arrived today, and I am very pleased with it. Looking through it, one of the lines that Ward says which I found particularly interesting was this:

"Actually it really bugs me when 1.e4 players call 1.d4 boring, when the majority of their games are probably outings in the Petroff Defense or the Closed Spanish!"

He ment ...[text shortened]... and there appear to be some sharp Nimzo lines, like 4.f3!?. Am I right, or am I right? 😉
Of course, there are interesting and boring lines in most openings. And there are plenty of d4 players who like to play interesting tactical stuff, just as there are stodgy, 'boring' e4 players. However, in my experience, it's a fair generalisation that naturally attacking, tactical players TEND to prefer 1.e4 while players with a quieter, more positional style TEND to prefer 1.d4 (or 1.c4 or 1.Nf3). Generalisations such as this are OK as long as you are aware that, by their very definition, they will have many exceptions.