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How to properly punish opponent who plays Fred ...

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I play often aganist my friend, very good player otherwise but without real opening knowledge. To my e4 he responds by f5. I ussually capture it, and if he do not put his knight to f6, he is doomed because of Qh5+, which is or mate or huge material loss for black?
Despite I red that fred defense is terrible opening I can't really exploit that much after

1. e4 f5
2. exf5 Nf6

Do some of you has any experiences to share about this line. High rated opponents like Korch or so are welcome...

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Originally posted by ivan2908
I play often aganist my friend, very good player otherwise but without real opening knowledge. To my e4 he responds by f5. I ussually capture it, and if he do not put his knight to f6, he is doomed because of Qh5+, which is or mate or huge material loss for black?
Despite I red that fred defense is terrible opening I can't really exploit that much after
...[text shortened]... any experiences to share about this line. High rated opponents like Korch or so are welcome...
with a strong leather belt.

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The Fred is fun to play against opponents that haven't seen it before as they usually waste tempo trying to hold the pawn and attack the f7 square recklessly. I play this opening against Chessmaster 9000 and get pummled merciliously (can't remember the exact line right now).

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Anything except 2. ...Ng6 is the end for black. But if he plays that best second move, his structure is still weakened and I would like to know how to exploit it

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Anything except 2. ...Ng6 is the end for black. But if he plays that best second move, his structure is still weakened and I would like to know how to exploit it
Just play careful yet developing moves. Aim your pieces at the kingside...

From wikipedia: "With careful play, white can often gain a substantial advantage by simply playing defensively and not attempting any mating attacks until the late middlegame/early endgame. White is often correct to castle queenside to avoid black's kingside development."

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Thanks, I didn't know that there is an article on Wikipedia.

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Thats such rubbish! Its like saying to beat black all you have to do as white is move some pieces and voila a mating attack appears as if by magic.

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I'll play the Fred; check the Open Invites.

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Originally posted by Tengu
Thats such rubbish! Its like saying to beat black all you have to do as white is move some pieces and voila a mating attack appears as if by magic.
It's Wiki...nothing in there is terribly accurate or thorough. They have a lot of information on chess but too many bits and pieces scattered on different topic pages.

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Ok, the Fred game is over. Thanks to TheCraig for accepting the challenge.

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I've played the Fred dozens of times over the years in speed games and won every time (vs. players in the 1200-1700 range). It's just like playing an odds game (like Pawn-and-move), with a net deficit of roughly 1.5 pawns to start. But it's not an immediate mate, and given enough time, mistakes both small and large will creep in.

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