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I hate the Ruy Lopez

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Originally posted by Schumi
Don't play it then!
I don't, I never have, and I never will. 😲

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
I don't, I never have, and I never will. 😲
If you never have then how do you know if you would like it or not.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
If you never have then how do you know if you would like it or not.
I hate playing against it as black. That's why I play the Latvian Gambit a lot as black after 2.Nf3.

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
I hate playing against it as black. That's why I play the Latvian Gambit a lot as black after 2.Nf3.
I hate it as black too.... but thats why I play it as white.

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Play 3...f5 not 2...f5.

Sheesh!

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
Play 4...f5 not 2...f5.

Sheesh!
2...f5 rocks! You just don't know much, or anything about the Latvian Gambit. 😀 😛 😏 😵 😲 😵 😏 😛 😀

Besides, isn't 3...f5 the Schliemann Defense? Last time I heard it was. 😛 😕 😵 😲 🙄 😲 😵 😕 😛

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
2...f5 rocks! You just don't know much, or anything about the Latvian Gambit. 😀 😛 😏 😵 😲 😵 😏 😛 😀

Besides, isn't 3...f5 the Schliemann Defense? Last time I heard it was. 😛 😕 😵 😲 🙄 😲 😵 😕 😛
Exactly, much better than the latvian.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bb5 f5

I shall be playing it in this tournament.

Tournament 1941

When it starts.

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
[b]Exactly, much better than the latvian.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bb5 f5
One variation of the Schliemann goes: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Nxe5 dxe4 7.Nxc6 Qd5 8.c4 Qd6 9.Qh5+ g6 10.Qe5+ Qxe5 11.Nxe5+ c6 12.Ba4 Bg7 13.d4 exd3 14.Bf4.

Another goes: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Nxe5 dxe4 7.Qh5+ g6 8.Nxg6 and black is screwed as a bolt after Nf6 9.Bxc6+ bxc6 10.Qe5+! Be7 11.Nxh8. Black is down a rook and losing. If you come up with more variations, I'd like to see them. 😛

In case you didn't know, I have a book on the Latvian Gambit called "The Latvian Gambit Lives!". 😀

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I saw someone use OTB in a league game, boy did whites face fall.😀

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By the way, Diet Coke, my rating isn't over 1750. However, I want to play you as white against you and the Schliemann Defense. I will set up the board, that way this game won't be rated. What do you say?

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
By the way, Diet Coke, my rating isn't over 1750. However, I want to play you as white against you and the Schliemann Defense. I will set up the board, that way this game won't be rated. What do you say?
Sure. I await it on the open invites.🙂

Edit: The penny dropped and I challenged him.😳

Game 3316575

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In his book "The Chess Opening for You", GM Larry Evans calls defending against the Ruy Lopez "the Spanish Torture!"

Some GM once said something to the effect that if you don't understand the Ruy Lopez, then you don't understand chess!

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
Exactly, much better than the latvian.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bb5 f5

I shall be playing it in this tournament.

Tournament 1941

When it starts.
I've faced this cr@p twice OTB, each time totally unprepared. One game I mated the opponent in 19 moves, the other I was a rook up after 18. A lot of OTB players at a slow enough time limit are good enough to refute this stuff. In each game I didn't know the theory - but apparently followed the mainline, until my 'better-prepared' opponent blundered. One opponent was higher rated, btw, the other lower rated.

On the other hand, I've seen 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4. Nc3 Nd4 win for black in twentyish moves, in a game between two 190ish ECF (~2300 Elo) players. Actually I blogged that game - http://streathambrixtonchess.blogspot.com/2007/01/match-of-season-game-of-season.html - for those curious. I left Jeremy's notes off the blog, of course 😀

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[Event "Game 326667; Tournament: Viva Espana; Match: A"]
[Site "Stan's NetChess"]
[Date "2005.10.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SpazReborn"]
[Black "PatzerBernie"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. Nc3 fxe4 5. Nxe4 d5 6. Nxe5 dxe4 7. Nxc6 Qg5 8.
Qe2 Nf6 9. f4 Qxf4 10. Nxa7+ Bd7 11. Bxd7+ Kxd7 12. d4 Qh4+ 13. g3 Qh3 14. Qb5+
Ke6 15. Qb3+ Kd7 16. Qxb7 Bd6 17. Qb5+ Ke6 18. Qc4+ Nd5 19. Nb5 Bxg3+ 20. Kd1
Qg2 21. Qf1 Qxf1+ 22. Rxf1 Bxh2 23. c4 Nf6 24. Rf2 Bd6 25. c5 1/2-1/2

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
[Event "Game 326667; Tournament: Viva Espana; Match: A"]
[Site "Stan's NetChess"]
[Date "2005.10.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SpazReborn"]
[Black "PatzerBernie"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. Nc3 fxe4 5. Nxe4 d5 6. Nxe5 dxe4 7. Nxc6 Qg5 8.
Qe2 Nf6 9. f4 Qxf4 10. Nxa7+ Bd7 11. Bxd7+ Kxd7 12. d4 Qh4+ 13. g3 Qh3 14. Qb5+
Ke6 15. Q ...[text shortened]... 3+ 20. Kd1
Qg2 21. Qf1 Qxf1+ 22. Rxf1 Bxh2 23. c4 Nf6 24. Rf2 Bd6 25. c5 1/2-1/2
I didn't see the game name until it was too late. Sorry. :'(