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[b]Bleckk...the Paulsen is for sissies....πŸ™‚
So you think Marshall was a sissy huh? by playing d5 early? It is a funny comment πŸ™‚ I just laugh at it.

how can this line be sissy?

***1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3.d4 d5***

please explain if you know, it often leads to a tremendously open game for black if white is refusing to play e5 to transpose into french defense of Nimzovich variation.

Paulsen Variation of the Sicilian is just too complex and it can transpose into many interesting positions (including both open and closed as players prefer)

But still, Najdorf kicks asss!

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I was cracking a joke man. Besides that line you gave cannot be good for black. After exd5 I think White get an awesome position with a huge lead in development. I will post some analysis of what I was looking at if you want.

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I agree, it is not a good line, but marshall played it! I still like paulsen variation.

I never said it is a healthy variation, d5 is simply bad...πŸ˜‰


But it can be played against beginners easilyπŸ˜€

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I think White get an awesome position with a huge lead in development after exd5. I will post some analysis of what I was looking at if you want
You dont even need to think for that, that has been thought before. It is a gambit opening as clear as it is.

And I have analyzed it right to the end black loses the gameπŸ˜›

How can black play d5 that easily? That doesnt make sense and any logic, you do not need to prove me that. Because black's main problem in sicilian is that he cant play d5 early right? If he gets that move easily like that, there is no need to play chess πŸ™‚

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By the way Tony, thank you soooo much for creating such an educational and great discussion. This is simply enlightening for me. I just enjoy it.

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Well you acted like it was some crazy line where play gets play or something. He just gets whomped on. Like a little girl.

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I think it was misunderstood😞

I just meant it is a crazy line with crazy opportunities for both and still it is not that bad to play the Marshal Gambit in Sicililan, I insist it can be played easily against anybody rated below 1600. There is no danger involved I promise, I really analyzed it since I have played it countless times. And most people do not play exd5 right away trust me. Because when you have the balls to play d5 in that position, your opponents fear from you in Over the Board play and they refuse to open the game right away. Just try it once and you will see what I mean!

because he just plays d4 to open up and you simply say ''You wanna open up, welcome let's open up from here too'' LOL,

And they seem to fear and play e5 or something else. Not all people find excellent exd5! and not all people can play accurately in open positions! and not everybody prefers to open up the game crazily like that in move 3!

It is a different opening to be tried against beginners who are afraid of you and you know they will close up the game.πŸ˜‰

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While we're on the subject of other variations, what do you all think of the Nimzowitsch variation (1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nf6!?) ?

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Originally posted by c1arinetboy
While we're on the subject of other variations, what do you all think of the Nimzowitsch variation (1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nf6!?) ?
Nimzowitsch should be forgotten forever, or any other sissies who created the closing up the game thing. Just follow Alekhine, Tal, Morphy, Fischer, Kasparov and you will enjoy chess.

Also Botvinnik is a smart man, as Karpov is great

but Nimzowitsch and his variations simply I do not like! There is no taste I can get from it, just for little girls who wants to hide behind the pawns.

This was all joke, he is ok but his variatians really give me a lot of trouble, I seem to get frustrated when I play against French and all that close Nimzowitsch variations πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

Let's talk about dragon or something!

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Originally posted by NicotineMan
So you think Marshall was a sissy huh? by playing d5 early? It is a funny comment πŸ™‚ I just laugh at it.

how can this line be sissy?

***1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3.d4 d5***

please explain if you know, it often leads to a tremendously open game for black if white is refusing to play e5 to transpose into french defense of Nimzovich variation.

Paulsen ...[text shortened]... g positions (including both open and closed as players prefer)

But still, Najdorf kicks asss!
Frank Marshall did not care too play lines that were good positional lines for solid play. Marshall had a flair for the attack. While Marshall was a strong player he was not a super GM. Marshall also played 1. e4 c5. 2. b4 .... ? Super GMs too me are Players like Fischer, Botvinnik, Alekhine, ect. I doubt I could play that Paulsen variation. I like the Najdorf, but I am not strong enough to play it well.

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Originally posted by NicotineMan
Nimzowitsch should be forgotten forever, or any other sissies who created the closing up the game thing. Just follow Alekhine, Tal, Morphy, Fischer, Kasparov and you will enjoy chess.

Also Botvinnik is a smart man, as Karpov is great

but Nimzowitsch and his variations simply I do not like! There is no taste I can get from it, just for little girl ...[text shortened]... ench and all that close Nimzowitsch variations πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

Let's talk about dragon or something!
Well you must like Petrosian alot.

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Originally posted by NicotineMan
Nimzowitsch should be forgotten forever, or any other sissies who created the closing up the game thing. Just follow Alekhine, Tal, Morphy, Fischer, Kasparov and you will enjoy chess.

Also Botvinnik is a smart man, as Karpov is great

but Nimzowitsch and his variations simply I do not like! There is no taste I can get from it, just for little girl ...[text shortened]... ench and all that close Nimzowitsch variations πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

Let's talk about dragon or something!
I don't know about that closing up the game comment... Have you seen this insane line? 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.Qxd5 Qb6

Here's a great game using this line, where black had prepared a dangerous looking sacrifice, but Spassky found the refutation over the board!

[Event "Student Team Championship"]
[Site "Czechoslovakia"]
[Date "1962"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Spassky, B."]
[Black "Ciric, D."]
[TimeControl "0/0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B29"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.Qxd5 Qb6 9.Bc4 Bxf2+ 10.Ke2 O-O 11.Rf1 Bc5 12.Ng5 Nxe5
13.Qxe5 d5 14.Qxd5 Re8+ 15.Kf3 Qf6+ 16.Kg3 Bd6+ 17.Rf4 Be6 18.Nxe6 Rxe6 19.Qxd6 Qg6+ 20.Rg4 Re3+ 21.Bxe3 Qxd6+ 22.Kf2 Re8 23.Rf4
Re7 24.Bb3 Qe5 25.Re1 g5 26.Rf3 Kg7 27.Rd1 f6 28.Kg1 g4 29.Bd4 1-0

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Originally posted by gambit3
Frank Marshall did not care too play lines that were good positional lines for solid play. Marshall had a flair for the attack. While Marshall was a strong player he was not a super GM. Marshall also played 1. e4 c5. 2. b4 .... ? Super GMs too me are Players like Fischer, Botvinnik, Alekhine, ect. I doubt I could play that Paulsen variation. I like the Najdorf, but I am not strong enough to play it well.
Exactly, I agree. He was not as good as Capa (I do not like Capa) or any other SUPER Gm. But he was maybe one of the strongest tournament player in chess history. Well, Tal (blitz maniac) was too. And many others. Like Bobby Fischer.

But Marshall is a champion and I still like 1.e4 c5 2.b4....? even you think it is bad.

What?? Surprised?

You think you can beat me in that opening or anyon else easily if you were black???

It is simply bad when you play GM level but when you play class players, it is all tight baby! It is all tight and right! It shows your courage!

And chess is not all scientific, Lasker always played to the man, and for 27 years he was the champ of the world.

And Marshall the same way in USA. I am not saying Marshall's gambit's are the best (They are gambits) but if you want to surprise those memorizers who has no clue about chess itself, those are playable openings. Actually I really like 1.a3 (Andersen opening) and so what??? You can sometimes let yourself behind in dedvelopment. It's no big deal.

But Scientifically Najdorf is best and most complex variation in Sicilian without a doubt! And it is very unpredicatable like Najdorf himself.

I still do not wanna comment about the Dragon because I do not know a lot myself.

Thank you all for reading this crap!

Mr. Nic

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Originally posted by NicotineMan
I still do not wanna comment about the Dragon because I do not know a lot myself.
Well then why are you posting in this thread?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Well then why are you posting in this thread?
I simply wanna learn about it, that is your answer or could there be any other answer in the first place? πŸ˜‰

But why are you quoting me?

*edit* ps:I am so sorry that I posted here, I will not anymore

*edit 2* you just post as you know everything and we will all listen in amazament, I am serious. No sarcasm. I love your intellectuality and quick-witted humour as well as your moves on the board. You simply are the best poster and one of the best players here. I hope one day I will be as good as you and will be asking deep snide questions like you do. I know it is hard work, I am on my way as I carefully *try* to emulate you.