Hey everyone,
I was wondering if anyone had ever thought of using NLP to improve. I was reading Aagaard's Excel at Chess (I think) or some review and it was mentioned that he used NLP and his rating rocketed up. Of course at the same time he was probably training like a fiend. Anyone here aquainted with NLP and would like to discuss possible applications? I don't know which techniques J. Aagaard used but I am sure we can piece it together.
There a post in another thread that mentioned that the posts are all drivel these days, sorry, 'lower quality' drivel. Hope this interests someone and we can all benefit.
If it is neuro-linguistic programming you are refering to, it consists of collection of manipulative tecniques both verbal and non-verbal to improve one's personal position in the eyes of another. This is done through adjusting word-patterns or actions in accordance with the observed physiological response.
Thus you imprint certain impression that substitutes your natural "projection".
It's chiefly used in negotiations, managment and other business branches where such advantage has a direct result in terms of succesful contract, promotion, better relationship with the staff, etc.
Originally posted by TanukiI was also wondering if anyone improved through CP?
Hey everyone,
I was wondering if anyone had ever thought of using NLP to improve. I was reading Aagaard's Excel at Chess (I think) or some review and it was mentioned that he used NLP and his rating rocketed up. Of course at the same time he was probably training like a fiend. Anyone here aquainted with NLP and would like to discuss possible applications? ...[text shortened]... se days, sorry, 'lower quality' drivel. Hope this interests someone and we can all benefit.
I know someone who is doing some quite extensive NLP training so I'll put the question to them. NLP might help to create a state of mind that allows you to make the more of your knowledge and abilities particularly OTB perhaps helping with calming nerves and increasing confidence for a tournament. There is a relationship between NLP and hypnosis. I wonder how someone would play if hypnotised to believe they are a grandmaster!
This could be a wider discussion covering how confidence and beleiving there will be a positive outcome effect play and if there is a physcological link to things like blunders and moments of brilliance.
Originally posted by wargamer66I've had similar suspicions about it (from what I've read and heard about it) but can't quite dismiss it all as crap...did you not get any benefits from it. I know the training workshops are expensive.
I've had a lot of NLP training and concluded that its pretty much pseudo-science crapola.
I think the way to get better at chess is the old fashioned way, play a lot and do some study.
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NLP = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
Originally posted by MahoutI didn't really get anything out of it, frankly. And I was disposed to like it at the time also! A lot of the techniques seemed to be things that were common in sales or, in my field, social work.... They just renamed techniques and held it together with a pretty suspect theoretical framework. At the time, I received the training to work with juvenile corrections inmates....and found that the old standbys of having rapport was much stronger than any NLP "trickery."
I've had similar suspicions about it (from what I've read and heard about it) but can't quite dismiss it all as crap...did you not get any benefits from it. I know the training workshops are expensive.
I think NLP is pretty much a way to make money off of NLP products. I think the NLP folks are more savvy than lots of others shipping management techniques though.
Originally posted by TanukiI teach hypnosis.
Intersting, we should get a group together and share what we know and flesh out some ideas. Maybe we can all learn something here and improve.
NLP was invented by two Americans comparatively recently, and now Paul McEnna (Brit) is part of it.
Basically, NLP was created out of the 'best bits' of hypnosis, extrapolated and given its own language, and copyrighted. I am not knocking NLP...indeed, it is now impossible not to quote it, and refer to it when discussing hypnosis.
Everything boils down to suggestion in one way or another.
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ok ok...spelling...McEnna should be with a 'k'..not Scots...