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12 Oct 05
12 Oct 05
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Game 729214 - ironman was the exchange down with no compensation.
i always thought he played perfect chess...
if he was a computer then it made mistakes ... amazing moves by fckallie that even i can appreciate (though a friend pointed me to this game, and confirmed the lack of compensation)
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by flexmoreOh, would you cut it out? Ironman cheated flex, your little buddy isn't coming back. Looking at most of his games, it's honestly a "tad" obvious. Although, he has done some "mistakes", one game, he "mouse sliped" (that's what everyone claims, how do you do that here?) by likely reading the engine annotation wrong and misplaced his queen by one square.
Game 729214 - ironman was the exchange down with no compensation.
i always thought he played perfect chess...
if he was a computer then it made mistakes ... amazing moves by fckallie that even i can appreciate (though a friend pointed me to this game, and confirmed the lack of compensation)
In this game, he captured a decent sacreficed pawn with the queen, instead of, what he should of done, HIS KNIGHT. There is some compensation for the pawn after the CORRECT capture, but not much IMHO. I think again, he simply read the annotation wrong, quickly skimed through his engine and read something captures pawn and used the wrong peice, and it made a HUGE difference. After he captures with his queen, the queen is essentially indirectly "hanging"/on prise in the early middlegame, but with his knight... I'm I missing something here? Yes, black losses the good fianchettoed bishop and there is compensation for the loss of a pawn, but a pawn is a pawn, why not capture it with the knight if he wanted to take it? He simply read his engine's annotation wrong when he transfered it to RHP.
I didn't see brilliant playing here by white after the terrible mistake of capturing the sac pawn with the queen, the tactical winning game then looked routine. Anyways 12... Qxd5 was pretty bad, Nxd5 was much, much, much stronger IMHO.
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by Umalakas12. ...Nxd5? 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nd4! and 15. Nc6 wins the quality. Putting a knight on c6 is part of almost every variation of this pawn sac.
Oh, would you cut it out? Ironman cheated flex, your little buddy isn't coming back. Looking at most of his games, it's honestly a "tad" obvious. Although, he has done some "mistakes", one game, he "mouse sliped" (that's what everyone claims, how do you do that here?) by likely reading the engine annotation wrong and misplaced his queen by one squa ...[text shortened]... then looked routine. Anyways 12... Qxd5 was pretty bad, Nxd5 was much, much, much stronger IMHO.
It's hard to see a good line for black. I think he should not have made the manouvre Rb8/b5.
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by schakuhr12 Nxd5?! 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nd4! Qb7 15. Nc6 e6 16. Nxb8 Nxb8
12. ...Nxd5? 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nd4! and 15. Nc6 wins the quality. Putting a knight on c6 is part of almost every variation of this pawn sac.
It's hard to see a good line for black. I think he should not have made the manouvre Rb8/b5.
Could be alright somewhat. Black is down 1 pt material but has good pawns and a pawn center, although stragely constructed, actually, it's not good at all, your right. 🙁
Anyways, to be honest, I didn't care much to look at the game. I spend no more then maybe 1-2 mins looking at others games in there entirety. My gut told me though, that perhabs the pawn should be declined, without even calculating 6-7 moves ahead to find out it's futile. I saw holes all over the position for black.
I just thought that maybe his engine, being as greedy material as they are, thought Nxd5 and there's something there I didn't see. Maybe he didn't use an engine here, or maybe, the greatest of engines, could not find a way to rescue him from an awful opening against a very talented player so the engine was looking for something jaged/tactical to do. But looking at ONE Ironman game that doesn't fit the means is hardly convincing, the guy had like 2000 wins and 2 losses, and played 200 games simul, I don't know many people who could pull that off without SOME outside help. Maybe he didn't use engines at all, but cheated in different ways, ie: geting 3rd party assistance. I honestly don't know.
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by fierytormentV Anand - Fritz / Primergy 2000, Frankfurt 2000 was a Leningrad Dutch and the machine won as black.
I question the fact of what computer program would ever consider playing the dutch defense.
I've got to agree with what's been said above 12. Qxd5 looked to be the cause of IM31's problems. I suspect that he played the openings from memory and engined up later in the game.
I see that a few more players have been excluded - most notably ThePO who was removed for multiple accounts (not engine use).