Originally posted by Pigface1In my opinion, no! If you want to win games against reasonable opponents you need to avoid opening errors and take advantage of your opponents. You cannot reinvent the wheel so a little opening study on your favorite openings will be the best chess investment you will ever make.
Hi all, I am a keen player, and consider myself to be above average compared to the "casual" player, but not very good against players who play all the time, I go through stages of playing for a couple of months then not playing for a good couple of years, thats what I consider to be a casual player.
Anyway, my point is, I find it very boring to learn open ...[text shortened]... rating do you consider it necessary to seriously study openings or get whooped all the time?
Originally posted by Pigface1Without some serious study, you will not reach 1800, unless you're a prodigy.
Thanks for all your suggestions, I will probably never reach the 1800 ranks anyway, but I was curios roughly when a player started taking openings a little more seriously, I think I shall look out for a book or two and just practice with openings here and there, I am not a total noob, so I have some understanding of the concept of openings. but have always ...[text shortened]... thout them so far.
Chess is a life long game, so there is no rush, I will just keep practicing.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamThats not true, iv never seriously studied the game, look at some of my games and you will realise i have no 'talent' for chess. I would say without some moderate study you cannot reach 2000, prodigy or not.
Without some serious study, you will not reach 1800, unless you're a prodigy.
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamYea which is what I said 🙂
Without some serious study, you will not reach 1800, unless you're a prodigy.
I dont care about the number itself, I was using that as a small guideline to see when serious openings and deep analytical play come into action, I play for fun and do not really try as hard as I should, I play far too quickly and just "trust" that my moves are good without going more than 3 or 4 moves deep 🙂
I love the game, but I dont have the time or patience to train like some of you do.
For the record, I am not keen on you insinuating that I dont need to bother learning openings because i`m a n00b not a good player, and that I will bever reach 1800, that may be absolute fact, but your bluntness is a little uncalled for considering I had not started a "how good am I?" thread.
The post that was quoted here has been removedagressive today, arent we?
I dont see where i agreed with youe statement.. i said i have never seriously studied the game, and i am 1800. however i dont think anyone can reach 2000 without at least moderate study, as in getting to a stage where they have a moderate knowledge or opening and endgame theory and also be reasonable at tactics, with positional understanding from moderate study.
So, where did i agree with your statement that you cant reach 1800 without 'serious study'?
re: when to start really studying openings...one approach is to look at your past games (especially losses) and ask yourself- where could I have played better, from the first move on- where did I first misstep? First analyze by yourself, then use an engine or database. Then do some reps on a board, practicing what you'll do differently NEXT time your opponent plays x on the third move.This focuses on your choice of openings and the variations you're seeing against your opponents- not what gets played at a GM level.
Originally posted by HeyDrezaThat sounds very sensible, I need to discipline myself to do that,I am a very lazy player.
re: when to start really studying openings...one approach is to look at your past games (especially losses) and ask yourself- where could I have played better, from the first move on- where did I first misstep? First analyze by yourself, then use an engine or database. Then do some reps on a board, practicing what you'll do differently NEXT time your oppone ...[text shortened]... s and the variations you're seeing against your opponents- not what gets played at a GM level.