IS winning possible for black in this end-game

Celsius I

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24 Jan 07

Celsius I

Brisbane

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24 Jan 07

Can we Black wins the game with black pawn on f3, black king on e3 and white king on f1 with white to play or is it reality stalemate?

darkguy00000

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24 Jan 07

FEN please.

~~Mister Meaner~~

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24 Jan 07

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AThousandYoung

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24 Jan 07

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Originally posted by Celsius I
Can we Black wins the game with black pawn on f3, black king on e3 and white king on f1 with white to play or is it reality stalemate?

If the White King flees like a coward, Black wins. So, it's possible.

Celsius I

Brisbane

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24 Jan 07

Originally posted by Mister Meaner
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ok mrmeaner I declare a draw. I suppose it is a fair comment and then can you tell me if there is a solution if white don't run away which in this ccase he does not but stay put.

Korch

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Riga

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24 Jan 07

Originally posted by Celsius I
Can we Black wins the game with black pawn on f3, black king on e3 and white king on f1 with white to play or is it reality stalemate?

If white to move then 1.Kf1 makes draw. If black top move, then 1...f2 wins.

~~Mister Meaner~~

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24 Jan 07

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Originally posted by Celsius I
ok mrmeaner I declare a draw. I suppose it is a fair comment and then can you tell me if there is a solution if white don't run away which in this ccase he does not but stay put.

That endgame was drawn with best play for several moves. I think your last winning chance was at move 79 when you should play 79...f4 instead of g5.

If he takes you take the h pawn and can keep your king ahead of your pawn to control the queening square and stop him blockading.

laphroaig

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24 Jan 07

i think last winning chance is at move 81b f4 (wrong. correct is Kh4).

Essex 3

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24 Jan 07

Originally posted by laphroaig
i think last winning chance is at move 81b f4 (wrong. correct is Kh4).

If 81. ... Kh4 then 82. Kf4 and 83. Kxf5. I think Mister Meaner is right , the last winning move is 79. ... f4. and in the ending K+P v K you must keep the King ahead of the pawn until your King is on your 6th rank.

laphroaig

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24 Jan 07

you are right, i was probably looking at other game lol ;-)