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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardI think Jan Timman, along with the likes of Nigal Short, were unlucky to be under, probably, the two best players ever.
Jan Timman, you don't hear much from him but he's one of the best players never to become world champion and probably the best dutch player of all time.
Originally posted by hedonistAgreed, Kasparov is certainly #1 and Karpov is a contended for the #2 spot.
I think Jan Timman, along with the likes of Nigal Short, were unlucky to be under, probably, the two best players ever.
Namely Kasparov/Karpov.
So both will be confined too footnotes in the history of chess.
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardOften considered by whom? I know Keene said that, but then, he also wrote that Euwe's victory over Alekhine was nearly entirely to do with the latter's alcohol problem. Since it is well documented that Alekhine stayed off the bottle for both those matches, I would very much like a more reliable evaluation.
Okay, I'll believe you here, but does that make Euwe stronger than Timman?
I guess it doesn't matter much but I always had this idea that Timman was stronger, since Euwe is often considered the weakest world champion.
The post that was quoted here has been removedHe did better as an amateur than (briefly) as a professional! This probably had psychological reasons: he had a mind that was very good at keeping itself busy and organised, but not if he had to focus on a single occupation. He needed the distraction, or rather the time-out, that his "real" job provided.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueOften considered by chess players. Just do a google search for weakest chess world champ, you will consistently find Euwe mentioned. I don't really care if he was or not, it is impossible to determine anyway. You only have popular opinion on such a matter and that is not worth much.
Often considered by whom? I know Keene said that, but then, he also wrote that Euwe's victory over Alekhine was nearly entirely to do with the latter's alcohol problem. Since it is well documented that Alekhine stayed off the bottle for both those matches, I would very much like a more reliable evaluation.
Richard
Originally posted by greenpawn34So who is the weakest world champ? 😛
A weak World Champion (?)
For an amatuer player to win the World title against Alekhine of people
after being at one time 3-0 down in the match was an incredible result.
Yes Alekhine underestimated him (but not that much because Alekhine had
a return match should he lose clause written into the 1935 match contract.)
Much has been made of the c ...[text shortened]... o it's extreme for the Fischer - Kaprov match.
Fischer's demands were too many and too much.