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  1. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Aug '14 21:42 / 5 edits
    Just now in a blitz game as black. I lost the first game but came back with this:

    LLil Meca vs. Vivify ( missed checkmate at move 24).

  2. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Aug '14 22:07 / 3 edits
    I missed checkmate at move 24 (and 25). That would've been a sweet finish to an unusual opening.
  3. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    18 Aug '14 23:35
    You'll be waiting a long time before you see 3. f3 again!
  4. 19 Aug '14 02:00
    HI Viv,

    If you go here:

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/gamesexplorer/index.php?movelist=&flip=0&co=-&u=-1&c=1400

    You will see they have this position....



    ...appearing 61 times. As the DB is about 2 years out of date and it does not
    included games under 12 (maybe more) moves I have 442 games from this position
    on RHP. White wins = 359. Drawn = 7 Black wins = 76.

    The quickest Black win is:

    Zionne - jmk9916 RHP 2011

  5. Standard member vivify
    rain
    19 Aug '14 02:58
    OK GP, thanks for informing me about that tool. Seems very useful.

    Looking through the games in the DB, it only has two games with the same first 3 moves, and zero games with with first four. If you don't mind, GP, can you find out how many RHP games have been played that the same first four moves? You said the DB is out of Date and doesn't have games under 12 moves; and I'm not sure what method you used to find the real number.

    Again, thanks so much GP.
  6. 19 Aug '14 03:47
    Hi Viv,

    None. The closest is this one (details in the Header). White is winning,
    then drifts...Black has perpetual with Nb2+ and Nd3+ but declines it.
    Black walks into a Skewer 1-0.

  7. 19 Aug '14 15:34
    Originally posted by vivify
    I missed checkmate at move 24 (and 25). That would've been a sweet finish to an unusual opening.
    can't see the checkmate.
  8. 19 Aug '14 15:42 / 1 edit
  9. Standard member vivify
    rain
    19 Aug '14 17:12
    Originally posted by The Gravedigger
    can't see the checkmate.
    24. Qg5+ 25. Kf2 Qg2#
  10. 19 Aug '14 17:19
    Originally posted by vivify
    24. Qg5+ 25. Kf2 Qg2#
    After 25. Kxf3 I'm not sure if there is a mate.
  11. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    19 Aug '14 18:42 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Fanakick
    After 25. Kxf3 I'm not sure if there is a mate.
    There is, with:

    24... Qg5+ 25. Kxf3 Re3+ 26. Kf2 Qg3+ 27. Kf1 Rf3+ 28. Qf2 Qxf2 #

    I don't think there's a quicker way (?)

    EDIT: nope, 28. Kxe2.... bugger lol

    EDIT EDIT: nice attack though
  12. 19 Aug '14 20:16 / 1 edit
    I think there's a good reason why this opening hasn't been invented.
  13. Standard member vivify
    rain
    19 Aug '14 20:47 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Fanakick
    After 25. Kxf3 I'm not sure if there is a mate.
    You're right. No wonder I "missed" mate.