Originally posted by MixoGoogle is your friend 😀
Is K+Q v K+N a win?
Please don't tell me HOW it is done, I just want to know IF it can be done. If it can't I will offer my opponent a draw.
I'm not sure if it's allowed to give you the answer while you have an ongoing game 😕
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Originally posted by leisurelyslothIf you're suggesting that I'm cheating by asking the question then you haven't read the question properly. If it is technically impossible to FORCE a win then I won't waste my opponent's time. If it can be done then I'll enjoy working it out ALL BY MYSELF - I like puzzles.
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Originally posted by MixoNo, he is correct. You are cheating by asking questions about your game in progress. Work it out for yourself or find it in a book. Consider 2 identical situations where the contestnts arn't sure what should happen - one of them asks this question and the other doesn't.
If you're suggesting that I'm cheating by asking the question then you haven't read the question properly. If it is technically impossible to FORCE a win then I won't waste my opponent's time. If it can be done then I'll enjoy working it out ALL BY MYSELF - I like puzzles.
If the answer is yes, it is possible, the person who asked the question goes off, works it out and wins the game.
If the answer is no, it is not possible he wastes no more time, and either resigns or offers a draw based on the situation.
In EITHER case, the person in the second game, having not asked other people for the answer may...
1. Work on the problem, figure it out and draw/lose/win based on the position. Either way he has put in much hard work.
2. Be lazy and just offer the draw or resign.
3. Guess -> and draw/lose/win based on how lucky/intutive he is and the skill of his opponent.
4. Look it up and understand the answer enough to apply it to his situation. Once again, they have done all the work without the garuntee that it will net them a win.
Hopefully this clarifies the differnce between the two approches (above and beyond asking about your game). Please avoid asking these questions until the game is over (at which point I would happily explain the situation to you).
Originally posted by leisurelyslothHe asked a theroretical question whose answer is available in books or with some laborous net surfing. Since It is not against the rules to use books in correspondence games i saw nothing wrong with telling him the answer. It will save him some time. I didn't supply any text.
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Originally posted by NZDrifterThank you for your understanding.
He asked a theroretical question whose answer is available in books or with some laborous net surfing. Since It is not against the rules to use books in correspondence games i saw nothing wrong with telling him the answer. It will save him some time. I didn't supply any text.
As I said, I will now try to work it out without any assistance. If I fail I will offer a draw rather than look in a book or website.
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Originally posted by MixoNo problem 😉 Ill check the game out occasionly to see how you go.
Thank you for your understanding.
As I said, I will now try to work it out without any assistance. If I fail I will offer a draw rather than look in a book or website.
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In future, to avoid having to listen to people moan, and pratically accuse you of cheating - this is an EXCELLENT chess forum - http://www.chessgames.com.
best of luck!
Originally posted by NZDrifteri'll just add that what you can't ask us you can ask google (as someone previously suggested)!
No problem 😉 Ill check the game out occasionly to see how you go.
In future, to avoid having to listen to people moan, and pratically accuse you of cheating - this is an EXCELLENT chess forum - http://www.chessgames.com.
best of luck!
Originally posted by NZDrifterBy the same logic he could ask a specific question about how to procede in his opening or endgame position, and you'd answer if the correct continuation could be found in a book!?
He asked a theroretical question whose answer is available in books or with some laborous net surfing. Since It is not against the rules to use books in correspondence games i saw nothing wrong with telling him the answer. It will save him some time. I didn't supply any text.
I concur totally - don't ever ask for help in any games that is in progress.
The question can be asked in any game in any position - "Do you think I have a win, a draw or should I give up right away?"
Then it is a clear violation of TOS 3b. Why isn't it now?
So don't ask any question about a game in progress and you will not be suspected of cheating.
Originally posted by zebanoWhat's the difference between looking it up in a book and asking on this site? It's a good question and shows how this site can help develop chess thinking. I, also, would like to know how a Q and K can beat a Kt and K. The persaon who put forward this question is inquisitive and learning, not a cheat.
No, he is correct. You are cheating by asking questions about your game in progress. Work it out for yourself or find it in a book. Consider 2 identical situations where the contestnts arn't sure what should happen - one of them asks this question and the other doesn't.
If the answer is yes, it is possible, the person who asked the question goes off, works ...[text shortened]... uestions until the game is over (at which point I would happily explain the situation to you).
One of these days I'm going to write some forum rules that exaplains these things - it's not always easy to see why something like this is not allowed, and it'd save us repeating ourselves every time it comes up.
In this case the question was "can I win". Answering "yes" means he'll carry on looking with a different mental attitude, which gives him an increased chance of working out the win & therefore an advantage. Therefore it's not allowed.
Yes, this answer could be looked up in a book or a net, and this is allowed. So why not allow the question to be asked here? Basically, if we allow anyquestions on games in progress then where do we draw the line as to whether or not the question should be answered? A very similar question could be "can I win from this possition" - this may or may not be something that could be looked up depending on the possition, but I think it is clearer that this question should not be answered. However, if we allow "can these pieces win?" then some people will assume "can this possition win?" is also allowed. If they get told that their question is out of order they will claim "but X asked if he could win and that was allowed...". A blanket ban is the best all round solution.
Sorry, it's too hot to exaplian this well, but hopefully you've got the jist. I'm sure the poster was not intending to or in any way cheating, but the rule is in place for valid reasons
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BF