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  1. Standard member woodypusher
    misanthrope
    10 Apr '13 19:12
    I know a lot of people don't like Kasparov but I'm not one of them. I admire him as a chessplayer and human being.

    http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4009442/kasparov-to-receive-human-rights-award-100413.aspx
  2. 10 Apr '13 22:19
    One quibble: "He was listed by Time Magazine as one of the Top 100 people whose moral example is transforming the world" is most certainly not an accurate depiction of what the Time 100 most influential people in the world list is about.

    I don't want to go on too much about the political alignment of "UN Watch". Perhaps anyone interested could just read the Wiki article about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Watch and make up their own mind about where they're coming from.
  3. Standard member woodypusher
    misanthrope
    11 Apr '13 01:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    [b]One quibble: "He was listed by Time Magazine as one of the Top 100 people whose moral example is transforming the world" is most certainly not an accurate depiction of what the Time 100 most influential people in the world list is about.


    I guess you would know better than Time Magazine what their definition of moral example is.

    While you're at it, why don't you tell me who I should admire?
  4. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    11 Apr '13 02:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by woodypusher
    (this refers to the post immediately above.)

    This is an overreaction, and personal in a negative way that isn't justified. We don't have to agree, but we can be civil about it.

    Kasparov can be a polarizing figure, which is part of what makes him so interesting.
  5. 11 Apr '13 05:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by woodypusher
    I know a lot of people don't like Kasparov but I'm not one of them. I admire him as a chessplayer and human being.

    http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4009442/kasparov-to-receive-human-rights-award-100413.aspx
    its his second. he got one from vladimir putin 😛
  6. 11 Apr '13 12:28 / 1 edit
    I wish he would run for the U.S. Senate. I would vote for him for President if he was allowed to run.
  7. 11 Apr '13 13:09
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I wish he would run for the U.S. Senate. I would vote for him for President if he was allowed to run.
    Very clever people like that I wouldn't always vote for - I didn't like al gore

    I used to be a salesman and you can trick clever people in ways a stupid person would not fall for (flattery)

    Tony Blair was clever and not gullable but i find most clever people are
  8. Standard member atticus2
    Frustrate the Bad
    11 Apr '13 15:05
    Originally posted by e4chris
    Tony Blair was clever and not gullable
    You are joking of course.

    Blair absorbs flattery like a sponge. He has an ego the size of a minor planet. And 'not gullible'? Well, you decide: after a weekend of private meetings with George Dubya Bush (and some prayin' together apparently), Blair emerged convinced that invading Iraq was the right thing to do 🙄
  9. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    11 Apr '13 15:08
    Originally posted by atticus2
    You are joking of course.

    Blair absorbs flattery like a sponge. He has an ego the size of a minor planet. And 'not gullible'? Well, you decide: after a weekend of private meetings with George Dubya Bush (and some prayin' together apparently), Blair emerged convinced that invading Iraq was the right thing to do 🙄
    That just shows who has the money bucket.
  10. Standard member woodypusher
    misanthrope
    11 Apr '13 15:12 / 3 edits
    I fear for Kasparov's life, especially after what happened to Alexander Litvinenko and Boris Berezovsky. Kasparov is risking his life standing up to Putin. Even if you disagree with Garry, you have to admire his cojones.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko

    http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2013/03/25/17528.shtml

    As far as overreacting, it all depends on how deeply you admire someone. I have deep admiration for Kasparov. My reaction was normal based on that.. For others who don't like Kasparov or like him less, yes, it would be an overreaction.
  11. Standard member woodypusher
    misanthrope
    11 Apr '13 15:17
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I wish he would run for the U.S. Senate. I would vote for him for President if he was allowed to run.
    So would I.

    Kasparov on Bill Mahler's show:
    YouTube
  12. 11 Apr '13 15:31 / 6 edits
    Originally posted by atticus2
    You are joking of course.

    Blair absorbs flattery like a sponge. He has an ego the size of a minor planet. And 'not gullible'? Well, you decide: after a weekend of private meetings with George Dubya Bush (and some prayin' together apparently), Blair emerged convinced that invading Iraq was the right thing to do 🙄
    I think what you miss is Blair and Bush were a bit like Thatcher - scary to have as president as they could be so willful, but terrible to have as an enemy. People mock Bush but who would you rather have as a foe? you could appease Al Gore no end but you could not appease Bush that easily.

    Blair was confident / arrogant a bit but in a healthy way - he didn't need flattery, he would take very unpopular decisions if essential.
  13. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    12 Apr '13 01:58
    Originally posted by atticus2
    You are joking of course.

    Blair absorbs flattery like a sponge. He has an ego the size of a minor planet. And 'not gullible'? Well, you decide: after a weekend of private meetings with George Dubya Bush (and some prayin' together apparently), Blair emerged convinced that invading Iraq was the right thing to do 🙄
    Invading Iraq to remove that dictator was the right thing to do and it would have worked perfectly if the U.S. had more courageous allies instead of so many cowards following after that French leader. You cowardly British would not have helped either, if it was not for Tony Blair. That is the way I feel about it.
  14. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    12 Apr '13 07:09 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You cowardly British would not have helped either, if it was not for Tony Blair. That is the way I feel about it.
    How many VCs have Americans won?
    Eh?
  15. 12 Apr '13 14:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    How many VCs have Americans won?
    Eh?
    Six.

    Including Bellenden Seymour Hutcheson who was born in America and
    took up Canadian nationality just so he could fight in WWI.
    Off he goes and fights in WWI. Wins the Victoria Cross, comes home and
    takes up American nationality again.