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  1. 06 Apr '07 12:26
    Does anyone know any good books or websites that talk about this line?

    e4 e5
    f5 ef
    Bc4

    I like this a lot more than Nf3, also less theory.

    Thanks.
  2. 06 Apr '07 12:32
    Originally posted by RabbitCold
    Does anyone know any good books or websites that talk about this line?

    e4 e5
    f5 ef
    Bc4

    I like this a lot more than Nf3, also less theory.

    Thanks.
    The Fascinating King's Gambit...check amazon.com for a sneak peek into the book
  3. Standard member najdorfslayer
    The Ever Living
    06 Apr '07 13:54
    Kings Gambit Uncensored by J.Tait
  4. 06 Apr '07 22:09
    Do these books cover 3 Bc4 instead of Nc3?
  5. 07 Apr '07 02:39
    Originally posted by RabbitCold
    Do these books cover 3 Bc4 instead of Nc3?
    yes, and next to the Bc4, the authors will have surely written at least three pages worth of laughter...
    Nf3 is great because it develops one of the pieces which could eventually attack f7...
    the bishop almost always goes to c4 anyway...
    but by allowing the queen to check to h4 and you have to move the king to f1...
    it's just ugly...
  6. Standard member rotk
    Orc slayer
    07 Apr '07 03:20
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    yes, and next to the Bc4, the authors will have surely written at least three pages worth of laughter...
    Nf3 is great because it develops one of the pieces which could eventually attack f7...
    the bishop almost always goes to c4 anyway...
    but by allowing the queen to check to h4 and you have to move the king to f1...
    it's just ugly...
    I'd have to disagree, when they go Qh4+ against me they usually lose their queen or their king rather quickly. like under 20 moves.
  7. 07 Apr '07 03:48
    Yeah, Kf1 is not bad.
  8. 07 Apr '07 09:25
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    yes, and next to the Bc4, the authors will have surely written at least three pages worth of laughter...
    Nf3 is great because it develops one of the pieces which could eventually attack f7...
    the bishop almost always goes to c4 anyway...
    but by allowing the queen to check to h4 and you have to move the king to f1...
    it's just ugly...
    Reading the first page on Amazon, the author actually recommends bc4. To me it looks like with bc4 and qh4 black loses a tempo, and white loses castling rights.

    Doesn't look especially advantageous for white. I must be missing something?
  9. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    07 Apr '07 09:36
    [Event "RUS Moscow Kremlin"]
    [Site "RUS Moscow Kremlin"]
    [Date "1995.??.??"]
    [EventDate "?"]
    [Round "2"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [White "Alexander Morozevich"]
    [Black "Viswanathan Anand"]
    [ECO "C33"]


    1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 c6 5.Bb3 d5 6.exd5 cxd5 7.d4
    Bb4 8.Nf3 O-O 9.O-O Bxc3 10.bxc3 Qc7 11.Qe1 Nc6 12.Qh4 Ne7
    13.Bxf4 Qxc3 14.Bd2 Qc7 15.Ne5 Nf5 16.Qf4 Be6 17.Bb4 Rfc8
    18.g4 Nd6 19.Rae1 Nfe4 20.c4 dxc4 21.Bc2 Nf6 22.g5 Nh5 23.Qf3
    g6 24.Nxg6 hxg6 25.Bxg6 fxg6 26.Rxe6 Qf7 27.Qd5 Nf5 28.Rxf5
    1-0
  10. 07 Apr '07 19:00
    Two GM games with 3. Bc4 Qh4+. Both are wins for white.

    Fischer - Evans (1963)
    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044179

    Ivanchuk - Nikolic (2004)
    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1289139
  11. 08 Apr '07 15:54 / 2 edits
    I've played the Kings Gambit for years you have to bring it to your opponent with tactical power. If your afraid of a little risk don't play this gambit.



    [Event "Instant Chess Match 30.0 game."]
    [Site "Instant Chess Server Internet"]
    [Date "2006"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Aristolle"]
    [Black "Mr.Frank Miller"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "C33"]

    1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Bc5 5. d4 Bb4 6. Qd3 d6 7. Bxf4 Ng4 8.
    Nh3 Qh4+ 9. Bg3 Qh5 10. Nf4 Qg5 11. O-O-O Nc6 12. Kb1 O-O 13. h4 Qf6 14. Ncd5
    Qh6 15. c3 Ba5 16. Qf3 Bd7 17. h5 b6 18. Nxc7 Rac8 19. Ncd5 Rb8 20. Ne3 Qg5 21.
    Rde1 Rbc8 22. Bh4 Qh6 23. Nxg4 Bxg4 24. Qxg4 Ne7 25. Bxe7 Rfe8 26. Bg5 Qxg5 27.
    Qxg5 h6 28. Qg6 Kh8 29. Bxf7 Rf8 30. Ne6 Rc6 31. Qxg7# 1-0

    [Event "35.0 Game"]
    [Date "2006"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Aristolle"]
    [Black "Franco Bolo"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "C33"]

    1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qg5 4. Qf3 Bd6 5. Nc3 c6 6. d4 Bb4 7. Bd2 Bxc3 8.
    Bxc3 d6 9. O-O-O f6 10. Ne2 Bg4 11. Qf2 f3+ 12. Bd2 Qg6 13. Nf4 Qh6 14. g3 g5
    15. Ne6 Kd7 16. d5 Na6 17. Bxa6 bxa6 18. h4 Bxe6 19. dxe6+ Ke7 20. hxg5 Qf8 21.
    Qxf3 Kd8 22. Ba5+ Kc8 23. Qf5 Kb8 24. Rd3 Qe7 25. Rb3+ Kc8 26. Rd1 Rb8 27. Bb4
    c5 28. Bxc5 Rxb3 29. Bxd6 Qg7 30. e7+ Kb7 31. Qd7+ Kb6 32. Qc7+ Kb5 33. e8=Q+
    1-0

    [Event "Queen Alice Correspondence Tournament "]
    [Site "Queen Alice Correspondence Chess Sight"]
    [Date "2005"]
    [Round "1"]
    [White "Aristolle"]
    [Black "Peter Frank"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "C30"]

    1. e4 e5 2. f4 Nc6 3. Nf3 exf4 4. d4 Bb4+ 5. c3 Ba5 6. Nbd2 d6 7. Qa4 Nf6 8. d5
    Bd7 9. dxc6 Bxc6 10. Qxa5 b6 11. Qg5 Rg8 12. Qxf4 Qe7 13. Bd3 h6 14. O-O Rh8
    15. e5 g5 16. Qxf6 Qxf6 17. exf6 Kd7 18. Nd4 h5 19. Nxc6 Kxc6 20. Rf5 Rhg8 21.
    Be4+ Kd7 22. Bxa8 Rxa8 23. Rxg5 Rh8 24. Nf3 Ke6 25. Be3 Kxf6 26. Bd4+ Ke7 27.
    Bxh8 Ke6 28. Rxh5 f6 29. Nd4+ Kf7 30. Rf1 c5 31. Rxf6+ Ke7 32. Nf5+ Kd7 33.
    Rxd6+ Kc7 34. Rh7+ 1-0
  12. Standard member rotk
    Orc slayer
    08 Apr '07 21:36
    This what I'm talking about when I say lose their queen or king.

    Game 2766892

    Game 3381277
  13. Standard member najdorfslayer
    The Ever Living
    08 Apr '07 21:41
    Originally posted by rotk
    This what I'm talking about when I say lose their queen or king.

    Game 2766892

    Game 3381277
    Unfortunately Blacks responses are not correct. The Qh4+ is not really strong here........the king sits on Kf1 quite safely.

    The best response to 3.Bc4 is 3...Nf6 then after 4.Nc3 c6 (preparing to play d5)