02 Feb 07
What is your take on this. I don't have ECO, so you are my sounding board. I'm White: 1)Nf3 f5.... What is your take on that? Should I play a gambit move with e4? Seems like that would be the aggressive thing to do. Or should I continue development with g3?
Thanks for any advice.
02 Feb 07
Continued development was my first instinct, but that gambit pawn looked very tempting. Thanks to both of you. Also, what do you think about transposing into the English from here? i.e. 1)Nf3 f5, 2)c4...looks interesting, and I think that f-pawn would leave them ill prepared.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by slugworthI knew e4 looked cool, but I suspect that's what they wanted me to play. Not to mention that I have never played the From's Gambit (regular or reversed) and am not familiar with the tactical ideas it involves. A good question would be, what is the purpose of 1)...f5?
e4! a reverse From gambit anything else is spineless.
Are they trying to transpose to something, or are they flying blind?
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by slugworthHow?
e4! a reverse From gambit anything else is spineless.
In the From's gambit you normally play
1. f4 e5
2. fxe d6
3. fxd bxd
However in this case
1. Nf3 f5
2. e4? fxe4
3. d3 exN
You could play e4 and then move the knight to g5 if you really wanted to but I think thats a rather dubious cotinuation (although black must not allow Qh5+).
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by AlphaAlekhineOn 1.Nf3 f5 I would recommend 2.g3 and be ready to play d4 when opponent will be able to play e5.
What is your take on this. I don't have ECO, so you are my sounding board. I'm White: 1)Nf3 f5.... What is your take on that? Should I play a gambit move with e4? Seems like that would be the aggressive thing to do. Or should I continue development with g3?
Thanks for any advice.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by zebanoThat is precisely what turned me off about e4; the Ng5. I did see the Qh5+, but it looks like Black will be ok without much effort. Again, I ask, what is the value of Black's 1)...f5? Any ideas?
How?
In the From's gambit you normally play
1. f4 e5
2. fxe d6
3. fxd bxd
However in this case
1. Nf3 f5
2. e4? fxe4
3. d3 exN
You could play e4 and then move the knight to g5 if you really wanted to but I think thats a rather dubious cotinuation (although black must not allow Qh5+).
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by KorchTo take this one step further, you can transpose into an english with c4, g3, Bg2. The advantage this has over the standard treatment of the dutch is that you can either play d4 (moving back into normal dutch lines) or play d3 and e4 (a square white usually loses control of in the dutch) which is particularly affective if black has played Bd6.
On 1.Nf3 f5 I would recommend 2.g3 and be ready to play d4 when opponent will be able to play e5.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by zebanoIf you read an earlier post, I stated how I thought a transpostion to the English would be interesting. The game is then played on White's terms, and (in my opinion), the f5 pawn will be trouble for Black.
To take this one step further, you can transpose into an english with c4, g3, Bg2. The advantage this has over the standard treatment of the dutch is that you can either play d4 (moving back into normal dutch lines) or play d3 and e4 (a square white usually loses control of in the dutch) which is particularly affective if black has played Bd6.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by AlphaAlekhineread anything but the first and last post? don't blaspheme. Anyway, I hope I helped to clarify why the english can be effective against an unprepared dutch player.
If you read an earlier post, I stated how I thought a transpostion to the English would be interesting. The game is then played on White's terms, and (in my opinion), the f5 pawn will be trouble for Black.
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by zebanoOh, I didn't mean it like that 🙂. Yes, you have been helpful. You all have. To clear me up, f5 is the Dutch against Nf3?
read anything but the first and last post? don't blaspheme. Anyway, I hope I helped to clarify why the english can be effective against an unprepared dutch player.