Originally posted by National Master DaleOpen board, I could block the king against a wall easily enough but couldn't get my king into position to drop the rook and complete the mate.
It depends on the location of the pieces.
I strongly advise playing on even if you don`t know how to make progress you will most likely win accidentally unless you are psychologically resigned to not trying to win in the first place.
I use a similar technique for winning a Queen versus a rook.
I have no idea what I`m doing but I just check randomly all over the place and don`t agree to a draw after a while I accidentally win his rook.
This technique might not be popular amongst Grandmasters but its very effective at coffee shops.
Cover your mates again... It'll solve the vision issue here. You'll notice that if the
defending king is not resigned to move his king in the K+R mate, you cannot deliver mate.
Unless the situation is aided by pawns or other pieces, and its not #2, or immediately
winning the Bishop as material - a draw is certain in correct play.
-GIN
Originally posted by National Master Daleumm no.....not with rook against bishop. There are very specific moves which win(which are NOT checks)
I use a similar technique for winning a Queen versus a rook.
I have no idea what I`m doing but I just check randomly all over the place and don`t agree to a draw after a while I accidentally win his rook.
This technique might not be popular amongst Grandmasters but its very effective at coffee shops.
Originally posted by Nowakowskinot quite accurate although I think what you meant was correct. Remember the bishop cuts off a flight square as well
Cover your mates again... It'll solve the vision issue here. You'll notice that if the
defending king is not resigned to move his king in the K+R mate, you cannot deliver mate.
Unless the situation is aided by pawns or other pieces, and its not #2, or immediately
winning the Bishop as material - a draw is certain in correct play.
-GIN
I thought this would be of passing interest. In my database of 3.4 million games, there are 572 examples of pure rook vs bishop endings. 73% (414 games) were draws, with the other 27% (obviously) were decisive- I assume the guy with the rook won.
GM Ian Rogers calls it a draw- "easy, if the defending king runs to the correct corner.
He adds: "If the white king runs to a corner not covered by the bishop, there's nothing the rook can do. It is worth playing on with the rook, but only until your opponent's king is at the right corner."
Paul