King vs King

King Zeke

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14 Jun 09

King Zeke

Joined: 22 Nov 07
Moves: 17470

14 Jun 09

When both players only have kings left, is it not draw? I know people can't comment on ongoing games but I thought site would automatically declare a draw once the situation arose.

AThousandYoung

1st Dan TKD Kukkiwon

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Joined: 23 Aug 04
Moves: 26758

14 Jun 09

Originally posted by King Zeke
When both players only have kings left, is it not draw? I know people can't comment on ongoing games but I thought site would automatically declare a draw once the situation arose.

Sort of. One of the players technically has to call the draw.

aquatabby

Joined: 25 Jul 07
Moves: 27921

14 Jun 09

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Sort of. One of the players technically has to call the draw.

Indeed. Same with the 'Draw by 3 move repetition' rule. The site doesn't claim the draw automatically, you have to click the 'claim draw' button.

Essex 3

Joined: 29 Jun 05
Moves: 6907

14 Jun 09

Originally posted by aquatabby
Indeed. Same with the 'Draw by 3 move repetition' rule.

Please remember a draw can be claimed after three repetitions of a POSITION, not moves.

Renars

The Smoke

Joined: 24 Feb 08
Moves: 17386

14 Jun 09

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Originally posted by aquatabby
Indeed. Same with the 'Draw by 3 move repetition' rule. The site doesn't claim the draw automatically, you have to click the 'claim draw' button.

that would be plain wrong (if you ask me) if the site did this particular bit automatically. The premise of the rule is 'CAN', not 'SHOULD' or 'MUST'

Wumpus

Joined: 22 Jun 08
Moves: 42610

16 Jun 09

All you have to do is to move ze king to the last square and then ze can have a queen.

National Master Dale

Joined: 29 Aug 09
Moves: 1574

09 Sep 09

9.6

The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing this position
was legal.

Habeascorp

Joined: 04 Nov 08
Moves: 21889

09 Sep 09

as I recall this is a literal rule such that you must not be able to produce a mating situation even where your opponent is helping you.

negin2009

Joined: 20 Aug 09
Moves: 2007

09 Sep 09

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Sort of. One of the players technically has to call the draw.

you are right but it would be better if site do this on its own

Essex 3

Joined: 29 Jun 05
Moves: 6907

10 Sep 09

Originally posted by aquatabby
Indeed. Same with the 'Draw by 3 move repetition' rule. The site doesn't claim the draw automatically, you have to click the 'claim draw' button.

Please remember, it is not a draw by three moves repeated. It can be a draw by the third repetition of a position, but only if one of the players claims it. If neither does claim, the game continues.
However, if only the Kings are left, it is an automatic draw because it is what is known as a 'Dead Position'. Neither side can checkmate even if the opponent make the worst possible moves, and the game ends immediately.
For the official wordings, go to the 'Laws of Chess' at : -
http://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=124&view=article
and read articles 5.2d & 9.2 for position repeated; and 5.2b & 9.6 for
a 'Dead Position'.