King's Indian Attack

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02 Apr 06

Positional Player

Belfast

Joined: 27 Jan 06
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02 Apr 06

In the King's Indian Attack, after the sequence 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 Nc6 4.0-0 e5

How should White proceed? Outline any plans or variations you know of or can think of.

CrazyLilTing

Argentina

Joined: 23 May 03
Moves: 2029

02 Apr 06

Originally posted by Positional Player
In the King's Indian Attack, after the sequence 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 Nc6 4.0-0 e5

[fen]r1bqkbnr/pp3ppp/2n5/2ppp3/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq e6 0 5[/fen]

How should White proceed? Outline any plans or variations you know of or can think of.

This is a KID with colors reversed, and a tempo plus for white.
So, look for the KID's lines.

That's all I can say. sorry. I don't play the King Indian Attack nor the King Indian defense with black pieces.

But anyway I hope the tip helps you.

ark13

Enola Straight

mouse mouse mouse

Joined: 16 Jan 05
Moves: 12804

02 Apr 06

Originally posted by Positional Player
In the King's Indian Attack, after the sequence 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 Nc6 4.0-0 e5

[fen]r1bqkbnr/pp3ppp/2n5/2ppp3/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq e6 0 5[/fen]

How should White proceed? Outline any plans or variations you know of or can think of.

First you need to play d3 to preclude black's troublesome e4 push.

After that, there are several plans you could employ. One, which I generally use when play KID, is to play Nbd2, and e4. If he advances to d4, then you can play Nc4 to pressure the e5 pawn. Lastly, move your king's knight to make way for an f4 push. There are several recurring tactics along the way that you'll discover.

Another, the main line is to play e4 right away. Although this seems to lose a pawn if black were to meet your 5. d3 with 5... Nf6, it doesn't. If 5. d3 Nf6 6. e4 dxe4 7. dxe4 Nxe4, then 8. Nxe5 gets back the pawn. So the main line is 5. d3 Nf6 6. e4 Be7 7. Nc3 d4 8. Ne2. After this, the plans are essentially the same, but the queen's knight is on a different square.

exigentsky

Joined: 19 Nov 05
Moves: 3112

02 Apr 06

I think that there is a problem in your line. Once Black has played Nc6, you should immediately play d4. Otherwise you face a disadvantage imo.

ark13

Enola Straight

mouse mouse mouse

Joined: 16 Jan 05
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03 Apr 06

Originally posted by exigentsky
I think that there is a problem in your line. Once Black has played Nc6, you should immediately play d4. Otherwise you face a disadvantage imo.

That'd be a Gruenfeld with the colors reversed. He wants to play a KID with the colors reversed, or a KIA.

exigentsky

Joined: 19 Nov 05
Moves: 3112

03 Apr 06

But the problem is that you can't really play a KIA anymore after that move. If you try, you face a disadvantage. Eac opening is limited in scope, you can't play something against everything and expect a good game.

masscat

Joined: 25 Sep 04
Moves: 1779

03 Apr 06

Originally posted by Positional Player
In the King's Indian Attack, after the sequence 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 Nc6 4.0-0 e5

[fen]r1bqkbnr/pp3ppp/2n5/2ppp3/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq e6 0 5[/fen]

How should White proceed? Outline any plans or variations you know of or can think of.

The KI-Attack by Dunnington gives the following:
Vladimirov-Voskanian, USSR, 1977
1.Nf3 d5
2.g3 c5
3.Bg2 Nc6
4.0–0 e5
5.d3 Nf6
6.Bg5!?
An interesting alternative is 6Nbd2. White's plan is to eliminate the f6 N and fight for control of the White squares d5 & f5
6...Be7
7.Nfd2
7.Bxf6?! Bxf6 8.Nfd2 e4!?
7...0–0
8.Nc3 Be6
9.e4 dxe4
10.Bxf6 Bxf6
11.dxe4