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What moves does one usually make to play King's Indian Attack (ie the order of the moves)?

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the most popular setup is Nf3 - g3 - Bg2 - 0-0 - d3 - Nbd2 - e4

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Originally posted by moteutsch
What moves does one usually make to play King's Indian Attack (ie the order of the moves)?
As Korch says the basic setup is knights on f3 and d7, pawns on g3, d3 and e4, bishop on g2. How you get to that position is dependent on what black does and why you are playing KIA. If you start with 1. Nf3 then the move prder will be vastly different to those who play 1. e4 and use KIA as a weapon against certain black defences. As a starting point Starting Out: King's Indian Attack by John Emms gives a reasonable overview of the system.

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Originally posted by Korch
the most popular setup is Nf3 - g3 - Bg2 - 0-0 - d3 - Nbd2 - e4
I find sometimes, in fact a lot of the time, that "e4" is hard to get in, especially against higher rated players.

It sometimes easier to get in if played on move 6 instead of 7, it all is depending on how black is defending of course.

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
I find sometimes, in fact a lot of the time, that "e4" is hard to get in, especially against higher rated players.

It sometimes easier to get in if played on move 6 instead of 7, it all is depending on how black is defending of course.
In his old book (c. 1974) The Chess Opening for You, GM Larry Evans recommended a KIA setup starting with 1 e4. The only sensible move that can disrupt White's plan of a KIA setup is 1...d5.

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As the original poster requested the order of moves, I feel obliged to step in and remind anyone who is confused that the KIA is a opening system, not an order of moves. The moves can come in any order, as in an opening system the player strives for a particular piece position rather than immediately striving for imbalances. In an opening system the player often doesn't care what his opponent does and strives merely to get to the given set-up.

I believe there was a thread a while back discussing opening systems.

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Great system the KIA especially versus the French! First check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Indian_Attack
KIA DVD by Nigel Davies is very good too. The key moves in addition to the moves that define the KIA (1. e4, Nf3, d3, g3, Bg2, Nbd2) are c3 (preventing Nc6-Nd4 and oftentimes dulling the B on g7), h4 stopping any h5-h4 stuff and securing g5 for Nf3-Ng5, Qe2, Rf1, Nbd2-Nf1-Ne3 eyeing either Nc4 or Nf5 and later h5 push, even f4-f5 or Qh5 are all common moves needed in this system to get to the king. a4 is actually very handy too stopping b5 I find though RJF liked a3 and c3 stopping the queenside attack. Look at how Fischer, Stein and now Morozevich handle this system on chessgames.com and highly recommended by this patzer!