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In Gallagher's excellent Play the King's Indian, he looks at the 4 pawns attack with 6. ... c5. After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 0-0 6. Nf3 c5 7. dxc5 Qa5 he says that 8. dxc6 is no good because of 8. ... Nxe4. But I can't see what black has after 9. Bd2 other than 9. ... Nxd2 and then exd6 with a lousy d pawn but some compensation. 9. ... Nxc3 seems to fail to 10. Qb3, doesn't it? I've looked around for games with this but haven't got very far. Any help much appreciated!

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Originally posted by rhoalpha
In Gallagher's excellent Play the King's Indian, he looks at the 4 pawns attack with 6. ... c5. After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 0-0 6. Nf3 c5 7. dxc5 Qa5 he says that 8. dxc6 is no good because of 8. ... Nxe4. But I can't see what black has after 9. Bd2 other than 9. ... Nxd2 and then exd6 with a lousy d pawn but some compensation. 9. ... ...[text shortened]... 've looked around for games with this but haven't got very far. Any help much appreciated!
Maybe you are expecting too much. Black's first task in the opening is to achieve equality since white starts with the advantage.
Perhaps 9. ...... Nxd6 10. Nb5 Qd8 is OK since white's two central pawns have disappeared

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Originally posted by Rene-Claude
Maybe you are expecting too much. Black's first task in the opening is to achieve equality since white starts with the advantage.
Perhaps 9. ...... Nxd6 10. Nb5 Qd8 is OK since white's two central pawns have disappeared

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Thanks for the answer. Perhaps you're right. I didn't like the look of Black's undeveloped q-side after Nxd6 and Nb5, but then again, White too has worries with his king sitting in the middle of the board.

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Originally posted by rhoalpha
Thanks for the answer. Perhaps you're right. I didn't like the look of Black's undeveloped q-side after Nxd6 and Nb5, but then again, White too has worries with his king sitting in the middle of the board.
I think that's right; white needs a couple of moves to castle and in the meantime black can continue with development.

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Originally posted by rhoalpha
In Gallagher's excellent Play the King's Indian, he looks at the 4 pawns attack with 6. ... c5. After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 0-0 6. Nf3 c5 7. dxc5 Qa5 he says that 8. dxc6 is no good because of 8. ... Nxe4. But I can't see what black has after 9. Bd2 other than 9. ... Nxd2 and then exd6 with a lousy d pawn but some compensation. 9. ... ...[text shortened]... 've looked around for games with this but haven't got very far. Any help much appreciated!
10.Qb3 exd6 is not losing or anything like that, but it is already a little better for black. the pawns will get doubled in the recapture, queens get off, black gets nice development... which is not something white wants to aim for straight from the opening.

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