1. Standard memberLordofADown
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    18 Dec '08 08:072 edits
    I'm not positive but I believe that it is ideal to have your f, g, and h pawns at their starting positions for optimal defense after a kingside castle in the opening and midgame stages. So I have a couple of questions regarding kingside pawn weaknesses.

    For the following, could you please highlight a)what the weakness of such a move is and b)how to correctly exploit that weakness, if any exist.

    1. g pawn pushed to g3 for fianchetto
    2. h pawn pushed to h3
    3. f pawn pushed to f3 or f4

    Thanks in advance fellow chess players.
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    18 Dec '08 08:56
    this wouldn't pertain to our little game now would it?😛

    Seriously, all joking aside, in games where a pawn has been moved in front of the king, or in any sitation, the key to attack is to remove the defenders or to overwhelm them.
  3. Standard memberslappy115
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    18 Dec '08 20:20
    When castled, moving the f pawn gives a straight shot to the king.

    I will normally not break my castle defense unless my opponent's queen is off the table. After this, a surprise mate is less likely once the castle is broken.
  4. Standard memberDiet Coke
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    18 Dec '08 20:51
    Every pawn move weakens the squares it longer defends.

    f pawn weakens e3/g3

    g pawn weakens f3/h3

    h pawn weakens g3
  5. Standard memberDiet Coke
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    18 Dec '08 20:53
    Originally posted by slappy115
    When castled, moving the f pawn gives a straight shot to the king.

    I will normally not break my castle defense unless my opponent's queen is off the table. After this, a surprise mate is less likely once the castle is broken.
    Game 5752379

    9. f4 gives an example of a weakening pawn move.

    Game in progress so no comments on the current position.
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    18 Dec '08 20:56
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    Game 5752379

    9. f4 gives an example of a weakening pawn move.

    Game in progress so no comments on the current position.
    except that comment.
  7. Standard memberDiet Coke
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    all the 1.e4 games (1st half of book) in irving chernevs classic logical chess move by move deal with premature pawn moves by the king. its a great book to understand those concepts.
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  10. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    18 Dec '08 21:221 edit
    Originally posted by LordofADown
    I'm not positive but I believe that it is ideal to have your f, g, and h pawns at their starting positions for optimal defense after a kingside castle in the opening and midgame stages. So I have a couple of questions regarding kingside pawn weaknesses.

    For the following, could you please highlight a)what the weakness of such a move is and b)how to c ...[text shortened]... 2. h pawn pushed to h3
    3. f pawn pushed to f3 or f4

    Thanks in advance fellow chess players.
    A cautionary note. You should not be so consumed with not making weaknesses that you fail to get play for yourself. Chess is a game of trade-offs; for example, playing f2-f4 may indeed weaken my Kingside, but it may also be a spearhead for an attack on the enemy King, and it influences a center square [e5], and gains space.
  11. Pale Blue Dot
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    18 Dec '08 21:27
    Originally posted by LordofADown
    I'm not positive but I believe that it is ideal to have your f, g, and h pawns at their starting positions for optimal defense after a kingside castle in the opening and midgame stages. So I have a couple of questions regarding kingside pawn weaknesses.

    For the following, could you please highlight a)what the weakness of such a move is and b)how to c ...[text shortened]... 2. h pawn pushed to h3
    3. f pawn pushed to f3 or f4

    Thanks in advance fellow chess players.
    1. g pawn - This creates a weakness at h3 and f3 [assuming the e pawn has moved] for a piece, with a view to exploiting the white square weaknesses around the king. One of the plans for the attacking side versus a fianchettoed castle position is to trade the bishops of that colour in order to leave a static weakness in the pawn structure around the king.

    2. h pawn - This weakens the g and h file. The attacking side is often prepared to sacrifice a bishop for the h pawn in what is called a "Greek gift." If a heavy piece, such as the queen or rook, is on the g file then the g pawn may be pinned.

    3. f pawn - This is probably the least weakening of the three pawn moves. The side pushing the f pawn usually prepares for this by moving the king into the corner where the possibility of a nasty check at some point in the future is avoided.
  12. Standard memberLordofADown
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    18 Dec '08 22:00
    Awesome responses, thanks so much guys. I love these forums!!!
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