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  1. Standard member dsmfire
    happy
    16 Mar '09 08:25
    Hi. Mr User 424081 dondiego66 gave me a tasty lesson; mate in 8, as white! Game 6106571.
    Very nice, but it should have been opposite

    Anyone knows any history of this miniature, or trap?

  2. 16 Mar '09 08:57 / 1 edit
    I don't think it's so much a trap as you moved into Mate in 1.

    Position would have been fine after 8. Nxe5 Nxe5 9. e3 IMO. Now Nd5 really is a threat so probably 9. ... Bxc3 10. Bxc3 O-O 11. Be2 and 12. O-O things are equal.
  3. 16 Mar '09 09:21 / 1 edit
    The most common form of this mate is in the Caro-Kann:



    I must have won half a dozen blitz games with this trap. The lesson to learn is when your opponent moves his queen to e2 / e7 early on, note that your e-pawn might be pinned!
  4. 16 Mar '09 11:19
    against the budapest gambit it is common to have mate threatened. e3 remedies this real quick.
  5. 16 Mar '09 11:23
    Originally posted by dsmfire
    Anyone knows any history of this miniature, or trap?
    I am pretty certain this trap is pointed out in every Budapest book there is.
  6. Standard member Alzheimer
    A brain like a sieve
    16 Mar '09 16:00
    Originally posted by dsmfire
    Anyone knows any history of this miniature, or trap?
    What I can't understand is:

    You are allowed to use a database, so why loosing a game so early??
  7. Standard member dsmfire
    happy
    16 Mar '09 21:42
    Originally posted by Alzheimer
    What I can't understand is:

    You are allowed to use a database, so why loosing a game so early??

    I didnt use the database. i even didnt use my own (however only sub-average) abilities before my last move.