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07 Apr 06
07 Apr 06
...and don't blink!
Anyone else got examples of games where they won because their opponent avoided an exchange?
Game 1818469
07 Apr 06
Originally posted by orfeoOnly yesterday on FICS I lost one because of that....
...and don't blink!
Anyone else got examples of games where they won because their opponent avoided an exchange?
Game 1818469
if I went hunting i could find thousands..,
15 Apr 06
Originally posted by orfeoThe real reason your opponent lost is because he failed to look one move ahead. Ariel Mengarini's sage advice is so often neglected: "Avoid blunders! Avoid blunders! Drum it into your head. No move without a next-ply search!".
...and don't blink!
Anyone else got examples of games where they won because their opponent avoided an exchange?
Game 1818469
15 Apr 06
Originally posted by orfeoA bit similar in the end to your own game:
...and don't blink!
Anyone else got examples of games where they won because their opponent avoided an exchange?
Game 1818469
Game 1810323
15 Apr 06
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemWell, duh. It's a blunder by definition. It was the KIND of blunder I was interested in.
The real reason your opponent lost is because he failed to look one move ahead. Ariel Mengarini's sage advice is so often neglected: "Avoid blunders! Avoid blunders! Drum it into your head. No move without a next-ply search!".
And I might add it was a calculated move on my part because I thought my opponent was the type of player who WOULD avoid an exchange.
15 Apr 06
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Originally posted by orfeoWhat's the point of showing people overlooking a one-move checkmate? You dress it up in some kind of showy title like "Avoiding an exchange and losing", as if you were offering something remotely interesting or educational on that particular topic.
Well, duh. It's a blunder by definition. It was the KIND of blunder I was interested in.
And I might add it was a calculated move on my part because I thought my opponent was the type of player who WOULD avoid an exchange.
This example is about as interesting:
White to move
Black is just one of those players that doesn't like to trade pieces! Knowing that, White plays the brilliant 1.b6!!! knowing that Black will play 1...a5 to avoid the trade, allowing a clear win after 2.b7!!
16 Apr 06
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[Event "OTB 30m+30m"]
[Site "Finland"]
[Date "2005"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Jusuh"]
[Black "1600-rated"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 h6 5. O-O Bc5 6. c3 dxc3 7. Bxf7+ Kf8
8. Nxc3 Qe7 9. Bxg8 Rxg8 10. Nd5 Qd8 11. Be3 Bd6 12. Bd4 Qe8 13. Re1 Nxd4
14. Qxd4 c5 15. Qc3 b6 16. e5 Qe6 17. exd6 Qxd5 18. Rad1 Qf5 19. Re5 Qg6
20. Nh4 Qg4 21. Rf5+ Ke8 22. Re1+ Kd8 23. h3 Qxh4 24. Qxg7 Re8 25. Rxe8+
Kxe8 26. Rf8#
{White mates} 1-0
clearly, 7...Kf8, avoiding exchange of bishops (7...Kxf7 8.Dd5+) was a blunder.
16 Apr 06
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemGame 1852647
"Avoid blunders! Avoid blunders! Drum it into your head. No move without a next-ply search!".
wise words. if black had followed that advice he wouldn't have thrown his queen away on move 24 to a knight fork
17 Apr 06
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemHave a brain. The idea was for people who are better chess players than I to come up with BETTER examples.
What's the point of showing people overlooking a one-move checkmate? You dress it up in some kind of showy title like "Avoiding an exchange and losing", as if you were offering something remotely interesting or educational on that particular topic.
Where in the world did you get the idea that I was the teacher, not the student? I'm trying to start a thread because I thought I might learn something from it. Instead of pulling it down, why don't you search through your own brilliant repertoire and post a decent example of an exchange being avoided which costs the game?
17 Apr 06
Originally posted by PawnChopAgain, where did you get this idea that I thought I was a good chess player?
Game 1852647
wise words. if black had followed that advice he wouldn't have thrown his queen away on move 24 to a knight fork
17 Apr 06
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Originally posted by orfeoNo one is accusing you of being a teacher or a good chess player. The title indicated that you might have unearthed what must be a rare thing in your games: a moment of inspiration.
Have a brain. The idea was for people who are better chess players than I to come up with BETTER examples.
Where in the world did you get the idea that I was the teacher, not the student? I'm trying to start a thread because I thought I might learn something from it. Instead of pulling it down, why don't you search through your own brilliant repertoire and post a decent example of an exchange being avoided which costs the game?
Upon finding that all there was in the thread was merely a game decided on the crudest of blunders (can't get much worse than a helpmate in 1!), most people politely made no comment. Rather than taking the hint, you bumped the thread.
Anyway, as requested, here is a better example.
BDP-NN
White to play
Hoping to shake up a roughly equal position, I played 1.e6!?. The main point is to win the exchange by exf7+, since Black must do something about his hanging Queen. Black did not wish to play an endgame down the exchange, so he replied 1...f4? and fell victim to my attack: 2.exf7+ Rxf7 3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Rf1 Bd6 5.Qh4, and Black's exposed K did not survive.
Much better would have been 1...Qxg3! 2.exf7+ Rxf7 3.hxg3 and Black has a pawn for the exchange, and White is saddled with two isolated, doubled g-pawns. Black has perfectly good chances.