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Here is a challenge for you statistics enthusiasts.
See if you can find the lowest graded of the following:

Grand master
International Master
Fide Master

The site to search is www.fide.com.

Good luck - I will award 5!! games of blitz to the winner.

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grand master is valery grechihin 2216 fide.
IM is aleks elfert 1961

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GM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=4121015
WGM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=3601498
IM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=4121325
WIM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=3202640
FM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14303400
WFM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=602825

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WFM ðŸ˜ē
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=602825[/b]
she's only 11 years old, and apparently just started playing fide tournaments last summer. still, 1500 rating makes you wonder if they just give WFM titles away...

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Originally posted by wormwood
she's only 11 years old, and apparently just started playing fide tournaments last summer. still, 1500 rating makes you wonder if they just give WFM titles away...
No, don't get my ðŸ˜ēs wrong, of some it's quite remarkable they have the title (i.e. young age). On the other hand, the lowest rated GM & IM make you think they have been trying to lose points ever since they received their title 😛

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They do indeed occasionally give away the titles. As far as I can tell, Stefan Du Toit was awarded the FIDE Master title on the basis that he won the under 14 youth championships of Africa. I went through some of his games and he is clearly nowhere near the playing strength that is usually required to become a FIDE Master (FIDE rating of at least 2300).

Of course the winner of the Womens World Championship used to be awarded a Grandmaster title, which is why there were women Grandmasters before Susan Polgar earned it properly.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
No, don't get my ðŸ˜ēs wrong, of some it's quite remarkable they have the title (i.e. young age). On the other hand, the lowest rated GM & IM make you think they have been trying to lose points ever since they received their title 😛
they're probably the old guys who actually have the cojones to put their rating on the line and play, even though they know they're no way near their prime anymore.

then there are the dan heismans, who haven't played for a decade for the fear of losing points. he even went so far as to bitch and whine until they established a new floor just for him. -his excuse is that he'd lose business if his rating dropped. well, he damn well should. I doubt he could make 2000 fide anymore.

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Originally posted by wormwood
I doubt I could make 2000 fide, at least that should make me start OTB'ing first, which is troublesome, because I don't dare to put my ego on the line, blabla, I'm cool though, but I need to play some OTB, who on the world cares if I lose a few rated games of chess, come on?
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Originally posted by heinzkat
Fix'd
it should be pretty obvious from my blitz ratings that I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with losing points or having a crap rating.

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Hard to blame Heisman, if I made my livelihood from teaching I would want to protect my rating too. People falsely conclude that the higher your rating the better teacher you are.

it's not the same as a hobbyist who plays for enjoyment.

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Originally posted by nimzo5
People falsely conclude that the higher your rating the better teacher you are.

it's not the same as a hobbyist who plays for enjoyment.
sure, but we're not selling people services either. when money gets involved, the customer gets some rights. false advertizing is a crime at least hereabouts. I don't know about US, but at the very least it's highly unethical. if I'd go around selling chess coaching services advertizing myself to be a few hundred rating points stronger than I really am, it would be a fraud.

I'm not saying he's a bad teacher for beginners. that's his bread and butter, and as far as I know he's doing it very well. but the fact remains that he never was a strong player, even at his peak, and he's falling hundreds of points short from even that nowadays.

he was a uscf NM, wayy back when he peaked. he never made it even to FM. that lands him into the advanced amateur bracket even with a few healthy fistfulls of salt.

caveat emptor.

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I don't care one way or the other for Heisman,, but I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss the accomplishments of a National Master. I have played many OTB and have nothing but respect for their chess.

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