I've read, repeatedly, that you should choose openings that lead to the type of middle game you like to play.
But when you're new to the game, that's hard to short out.
I've been playing Ruy Lopez....what would be an example of an opening that leads to a different type of middle game than Ruy Lopez?
Maybe if I can play enough games with both openings, I'll eventually get a feel for what kind of middle game I like to play.
I think.
Just play. Play different moves. Enjoy the game. Try to learn from every game by thinking about what worked and what didn't work.
The Ruy is a King's Pawn Opening. A Queen's Pawn opening, like the Queen's Gambit is completely different. But, the list goes on and on.
If you are really serious about the openings, then just study an openings book, or check out the various options in the RHP Explorer, or other helpful resources.
Just look at the games that the good players are playing too. That will help a lot.
Don't do anything that I recommend, just check out my pathetic rating. You should probably do the opposite of anything that I advise.
well, just play is what i'm trying to do...albeit not all that succesfully.
but the kings indian attack, i can try that.
now, if i could beg y'alls indulgence...WHY is king's indian attack opposite ruy lopez?
what is the difference in the middle games they lead to?
and thanks!
I just looked at one of your games and I think I see one problem: 1.e4 does not equal ruy lopez.
If you are going to play 1.e4, then you are going to have to learn how to deal with black's responses, which includes the Sicilian and French. The game that I saw was the Sicilian.
One good thing about the KIA is that it is a system that can be used against anything black throws at you.
i just started this ruy lopez thing.
does e4, Nf3, Bb5 equal ruy lopez?
At any rate, I'll try your kings indian thing... as well as the e4, Nf3, Bb5, whatever it is.
And thanks again...I live nowhere, so it's a long drive to find someone to play face to face...this internet thing is the only place I've got to play and learn...
Originally posted by louwilkinsonThe KIA is different from the Ruy because the Ruy is an attacking offense. You're using your 3rd move to move your bishop to the 5th rank and create an uncomfortable tension for black's c3 knight. The KIA on the other hand, basically ignores the other side and aims to castle, put knights on d2 and f3 and fianchetto the light bishop. It aims to set up the pieces and only then launch an attack, hopefully a tempo up.
well, just play is what i'm trying to do...albeit not all that succesfully.
but the kings indian attack, i can try that.
now, if i could beg y'alls indulgence...WHY is king's indian attack opposite ruy lopez?
what is the difference in the middle games they lead to?
and thanks!
The KIA is much more passive and doesn't seek to immediately exploit white's extra move. It pretty much let's black do whatever it likes to set up a defense and then, when it's good and ready, commences the attack.
The Ruy seeks to immediately pressure black. By attacking the c3 knight that is defending the e5 pawn, it makes black deal with a threat immediately and leads to sharper openings that are much more uncomfortable for black.
I'm not saying the Ruy is better than the KIA - it's just different. On the negative side for the Ruy, it can lead to white overextending and being vulnerable to counterattack than the KIA. It is a more open and more sharp opening.
Incidentally, you don't always get to play the opening of your choice. You can only play the Ruy against 1. ... e5 and 2. ... Nc3. Though these are both very popular moves, not everyone uses them. You'll need to think of something else against other popular black openings, like the Sicillian, the French, the Philidor, the Scandanavian, the Petrov defense, etc. and some offbeat ones like the Latvian gambit.
The KIA is usable against a wider variety of black defenses, since it basically ignored black in the opening, but does face some limitations and you have to be willing to adjust from standard opening moves to react of unexpected moves that opponents make.
Originally posted by louwilkinsonIf you are new to chess, you should first cover all basics of chess like opening principles (I am not talking about book prememorized opening rather about understanding of opening, the meaning of fast mobilization and coordination of your pieces etc.), tactics, strategy and basic endgames and mate patterns.
I've read, repeatedly, that you should choose openings that lead to the type of middle game you like to play.
But when you're new to the game, that's hard to short out.
I've been playing Ruy Lopez....what would be an example of an opening that leads to a different type of middle game than Ruy Lopez?
Maybe if I can play enough games with both openings, I'll eventually get a feel for what kind of middle game I like to play.
I think.
Some could hate me for this but... did you ever try Chessmaster tutorials ? Cheap program and its interactive tutorial teaches you right from the start.
After you cover your basics, choose one opening you would like to master. Again, for a novice player I think italian game would do nice. That's classic and logical opening. It starts with 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4
Originally posted by louwilkinsongoogle "exeter chess club," you'll find their website helpful.
I've read, repeatedly, that you should choose openings that lead to the type of middle game you like to play.
But when you're new to the game, that's hard to short out.
I've been playing Ruy Lopez....what would be an example of an opening that leads to a different type of middle game than Ruy Lopez?
Maybe if I can play enough games with both openings, I'll eventually get a feel for what kind of middle game I like to play.
I think.
Hi
You will learn from playing (as you are doing) but keep the game load down.
20 max - no more.
You seem to have a grasp of the opening principles Game 5920951 then you lost a piece for nothing.
Very amusing finish though - well spotted and well played.
You must get rid of the stupid one move blunders.
I'll PM you the Two Minute Check List that will take care of that.
Game Game 5893816 is pathetic - were did 1.c3 come from?
Throw that one in the bin.
Diskamyl pointed you towards an excellent site.
Hit it with a printer - valuable stuff here.
There is thread on here Thread 26440 Checkmate in under 20 moves
Quite possibly the best thread on the site.
Start going through the games on there.
You will see opening blunders punished and pick up loads of tactcal ideas.
These games are all played by players from this site. So every
blunder you see, no matter how incredible is plausible.
Better to see how some other guy losses than you.
Pause for thought provoking quote:
"If we do not study the mistakes of the past then they will become
the mistakes of tomorrow."
If there is any move played by the winner that you do not understand,
Set up your board and figure it out.
If still unsure then PM him - chances are he will be on to willing to help.
(he posted the game - so he is bound to discuss it)
If not then post on here - 99% of the advice you will get is good.
Go though about 10 a night - it's good fun watching these guys lose
pieces and get checkmated in ways you would not think possible.
Re openings - Diskamyl took care of that for you.