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Originally posted by ketchuplover
Diet coke why did you choose 9...Bxc5 over Nxc5? I would've played Nxc5. However I move rather fast. Just curious 🙂
I think that after 9. ... Nxc5, white doesn't exchange the 'weaker' bishop, but enjoys the fact that the bishop on f8 is still undeveloped. White could play Qf2 immediately, and threaten to take on c5 next move (e.g. after b4 by black).

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For blacks 12th move I was looking at Nxd3+ cxd3 Qxf2 Kxf2.

Opinions?

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
For blacks 12th move I was looking at Nxd3+ cxd3 Qxf2 Kxf2.

Opinions?
That looks slightly better for white. Black has a 'bad' white-squared bishop, at least at the moment.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
That looks slightly better for white. Black has a 'bad' white-squared bishop, at least at the moment.
I just think it's severly reduces any kingside attack that white might think of making.

In the game his queen dominated mine.

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
I just think it's severly reduces any kingside attack that white might think of making.

In the game his queen dominated mine.
That's a defensive reasoning in a position where black has active queenside counterplay. The french is a combative defense, just as the Sicilian is, so it is better to play for initiative.

Also, and now I am exaggerating w.r.t. the position, a bad endgame can be worse than having to withstand a kingside attack from your opponent. Queens off does not necessarily mean safety in the long run.

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Originally posted by zebano
Gah, this just disappeared on me when I went back to look at the fen.
Material = even.
Space = advantage white as he controls the center, black has the q-side.
f5 is a big hole in whites pawn structure. No open files.
Development, small advantage to white.
e3 bishop is bad but active.


Plans.
White exchange his bad bishop off via dxc, Bxc, BxB, NxB ...[text shortened]... ut the fastest and most logical attempt is to play on the queensides utilizing his spatial plus.
I don't see the big hole on f5. Unless h5 is played by black at some stage soon, white can play g4.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
That's a defensive reasoning in a position where black has active queenside counterplay. The french is a combative defense, just as the Sicilian is, so it is better to play for initiative.

Also, and now I am exaggerating w.r.t. the position, a bad endgame can be worse than having to withstand a kingside attack from your opponent. Queens off does not necessarily mean safety in the long run.
I don't think the endgame is bad for black.

Also just because queens are off doesn't mean we are in the endgame.😉

Plus black still has f6 with the white king on the f-file.

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
I don't think the endgame is bad for black.

Also just because queens are off doesn't mean we are in the endgame.😉

Plus black still has f6 with the white king on the f-file.
I said I exaggerated to make a point. Now I see that you don't take the point. Good, best thing for you would be to try it out then.

This is not an endgame yet, no, but it has all the ingredients. What is the issue for white with an open f-file (which can be opened only after sufficient preparation anyway)? It does not activate the bishop. How would you do that?

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
I said I exaggerated to make a point. Now I see that you don't take the point. Good, best thing for you would be to try it out then.

This is not an endgame yet, no, but it has all the ingredients. What is the issue for white with an open f-file (which can be opened only after sufficient preparation anyway)? It does not activate the bishop. How would you do that?
I ignored it.

There is no such thing as a bad endgame, it is either won, drawn or lost. A bad endgame could mean "black has to work hard for the draw".

The bishop does not have to be activated if it is already performing a role.

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Originally posted by Diet Coke
I ignored it.

There is no such thing as a bad endgame, it is either won, drawn or lost. A bad endgame could mean "black has to work hard for the draw".

The bishop does not have to be activated if it is already performing a role.
You are entitled to your opinion, fine. But don't do wordgames. If a bad endgame does not exist according to you, then it can't mean anything either. Just like a won, lost or drawn endgame wouldn't mean anything, only the total game when finished is won, lost or drawn. So, how does that help us? Not. Of course there are good and bad endgames. A bad bishop (the piece performing that role) compared to an active knight with lots of pawns can be a good example of a bad endgame.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
You are entitled to your opinion, fine. But don't do wordgames. If a bad endgame does not exist according to you, then it can't mean anything either. Just like a won, lost or drawn endgame wouldn't mean anything, only the total game when finished is won, lost or drawn. So, how does that help us? Not. Of course there are good and bad endgames. A bad bishop ...[text shortened]... role) compared to an active knight with lots of pawns can be a good example of a bad endgame.
Which will either be drawn or lost.😀

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
You are entitled to your opinion, fine. But don't do wordgames. If a bad endgame does not exist according to you, then it can't mean anything either. Just like a won, lost or drawn endgame wouldn't mean anything, only the total game when finished is won, lost or drawn. So, how does that help us? Not. Of course there are good and bad endgames. A bad bishop ...[text shortened]... role) compared to an active knight with lots of pawns can be a good example of a bad endgame.
You mean, like this... ??

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Who's move is it?

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White to move and lose. Whould that be so-called bad endgame for white?

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Since Kb1 is just won for black.

I'll play along and say white Kc1

I was looking at Nb3+, but amusing though it is, it doesn't work according to fritz.

So ka1 keeps the opposition forcing white's bishop to move unleashing Nxe2+