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  1. 11 Oct '11 02:01 / 3 edits
    Jack Rudd - John Howard, Barnstaple Wednesday 10th Oct 2011.

  2. Standard member yosiman
    Genius
    11 Oct '11 03:17
    Good stuff.

    Is there any chance you have the moves leading up to that combo?
  3. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    11 Oct '11 03:50
    Oh i'm loving that! Sweeeet finish!
  4. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    11 Oct '11 09:35
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Jack Rudd - John Howard, Barnstaple Wednesday 10th Oct 2011.

    [pgn]
    [FEN "rknn4/p1p4r/QpP2p2/P2PpP2/1q2P2p/3BBP1R/4K3/6R1 w - - 0 1"]
    1. Qxc8+ {It kicks off with a Queen sac.} 1... Kxc8 2. Ba6+ Kb8 3. Rg8 {Most would stop looking at the possible Queen sac here because Black has....} 3... Qe7 4. Bc5 {It always pays to look further, this had to be s ...[text shortened]... {And Rb1 mate. In the actual game Black did not play 3...Qe7 and was matted with Rxd8.}[/pgn]
    Thats brilliant

    I would be dithering beteween Rb1 or Rg8
  5. 11 Oct '11 10:02 / 4 edits
    Jack Rudd: http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getref.php?ref=118310C
    John Howard: http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getref.php?ref=187572D

    A difference in ECF grades of 134 is like the difference between Skeeter's OTB rating and his rating on here.

    Anyway, here's the entire game:


    For those who like this sort of thing - I think I have a video of Mike Tyson knocking out a six year old girl which I can post if there's enough interest.
  6. 11 Oct '11 10:17
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Jack Rudd - John Howard, Barnstaple Wednesday 10th Oct 2011.

    [pgn]
    [FEN "rknn4/p1p4r/QpP2p2/P2PpP2/1q2P2p/3BBP1R/4K3/6R1 w - - 0 1"]
    1. Qxc8+ {It kicks off with a Queen sac.} 1... Kxc8 2. Ba6+ Kb8 3. Rg8 {Most would stop looking at the possible Queen sac here because Black has....} 3... Qe7 4. Bc5 {It always pays to look further, this had to be s ...[text shortened]... {And Rb1 mate. In the actual game Black did not play 3...Qe7 and was matted with Rxd8.}[/pgn]
    Just having a quick glance: does the combo work?
    After Rg8, my idea was Rd7!?
  7. 11 Oct '11 10:28
    Originally posted by queenabber
    Just having a quick glance: does the combo work?
    After Rg8, my idea was Rd7!?
    sorry guys,
    just worked it out

    if
    3..... Rd7
    4 Rh4! works nicely eg 4.... Qe7
    5 Rh8 Rd6
    6 Bc5 bc
    7 Rg1
  8. Standard member nimzo5
    Ronin
    11 Oct '11 10:29
    Very nice, a shame though that Qe7 wasn't played.
  9. 11 Oct '11 10:57
    Nice, but Rg8 in the initial position is simpler.
  10. 11 Oct '11 11:38 / 2 edits
    Hi V.

    I like your 37.Rg8 then Black would almost certainly have played 37....Qe7.


    Jack stated if he was Alekhine then the beautiful finish is how the game
    would have ended up in print.

    A few times Alkehine gave a planned finish to a game as though it actually
    happened to give the game some instructive gloss.
    Usually it was because his opponent failed to find the best defence and got
    mated in a more mundane fashion as in the above game.
    If you saw just the bare score then the Bc5 and Rh1 idea may have gone past you.

  11. 11 Oct '11 11:52
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    37.Rg8 then Black would almost certainly have played 37....Qe7
    Yes.... Rg8, Qe7, Rxd8, Qxd8, Qb7 mate. Not as nice, but to the point. In OTB games I prefer to minimise the chances of errors in calculation.
  12. Subscriber davaniel
    1.Nf3
    11 Oct '11 11:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi V.

    I like your 37.Rg8 then Black would almost certainly have played 37....Qe7.

    [fen]rknn4/p1p4r/QpP2p2/P2PpP2/1q2P2p/3BBP1R/4K3/6R1 w - - 0 37[/fen]
    Jack stated if he was Alekhine then the beautiful finish is how the game
    would have ended up in print.

    A few times Alkehine gave a planned finish to a game as though it actually
    happened to ...[text shortened]... e above game.
    If you saw just the bare score then the Bc5 and Rh1 idea may have gone past you.
    Wouldn't white simply play 38. Rxd8 after 37. Rg8 Qe7? No way to stop 39. Qb7#...

    Edit: too late....
  13. 11 Oct '11 12:29 / 1 edit
    Kill joy!

    We are looking for a snazzy finish.
  14. Standard member TimmyBx
    TacticsTime.com
    11 Oct '11 13:24
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    For those who like this sort of thing - I think I have a video of Mike Tyson knocking out a six year old girl which I can post if there's enough interest.


    ROFL!!

    Great game btw!!!
  15. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    11 Oct '11 13:44
    Originally posted by Varenka
    Yes.... Rg8, Qe7, Rxd8, Qxd8, Qb7 mate. Not as nice, but to the point. In OTB games I prefer to minimise the chances of errors in calculation.
    My philosophy as well, after too many painful experiences as a frustrated chess artitst.