Originally posted by ThomasterA few questions on that:
What if someone does this at two different sites? Should the chess-sites cooperate to discover this?
* How much effort would it take to do this continously?
* How much effort would it take to detect such behaviour?
In fact I think that a determined person could do this for years and would probably at some point be banned because of engine use, since he would be bound to meet an engine and would just copy the moves...
A determined cheater can't be perevneted from cheating. Or would anybody vote for having tests for people at a given rate, to determine if they are at the rating correctly. How about the grandmasters sitting down and discuss games with the probably delinquent? And who would volunteer and what about the people who would not like to be tested like that?
Originally posted by ThomasterI cannot see it being practically possible. Not only it will involve collaboration between too many sites, they will have to also verify it is really the same person. Similar user names and IP addresses wouldn't be enough.
What if someone does this at two different sites? Should the chess-sites cooperate to discover this?
A message to tom tom:
An old man that I used to work with gave me some of the best advice that I have ever heard. It really is a gem considering the source.
" Never volunteer anything to anyone. Your mouth will get you into more trouble than your butt can ever get out of. "
Words to live by. 🙂
Originally posted by PonderableI see it is inpossible to do that, but it remains a problem, I think.
A few questions on that:
* How much effort would it take to do this continously?
* How much effort would it take to detect such behaviour?
In fact I think that a determined person could do this for years and would probably at some point be banned because of engine use, since he would be bound to meet an engine and would just copy the moves...
A de ...[text shortened]... t? And who would volunteer and what about the people who would not like to be tested like that?
Actually, I have never seen a point in cheating. Why would anyone spoil someone's fun for a worthless rating?
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Originally posted by eldragonflythe great man himself seems to be relatively quite on the matter, i wonder if he feels remorseful or that if he says anything more he may incriminate himself further! anyhow i liked him, you could say what you felt and he never got personal about it! well not that much!
just a prank right. yer a naughty one tomtom, i banish ye to rhp purgatory for yer wild indiscretions. 😛
Honestly, I think he was just joking. I remembered another post where he said he talked to his pieces before he moved them. He was OBVIOUSLY joking, and I found it quite funny. I think it's just a case of some things that you don't joke about. That's what's bringing him all the (unnecessary) heat.
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficslol, funniest thing ive heard for ages, what does he say when his pieces are removed, or worse still sacrificed, 'ok little pawn, you were a good little pawn, but now your time has come and you must charge undefended into enemy territory taking as many with you as you go, now don't weep, think of the valour, the glory!, the cause!, your brothers destiny safe in the knowledge of what you achieved, Valhalla awaits you, where you can feast and fight and be attended upon by pretty lady pawns forever more'.
Honestly, I think he was just joking. I remembered another post where he said he talked to his pieces before he moved them. He was OBVIOUSLY joking, and I found it quite funny. I think it's just a case of some things that you don't joke about. That's what's bringing him all the (unnecessary) heat.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLOL
lol, funniest thing ive heard for ages, what does he say when his pieces are removed, or worse still sacrificed, 'ok little pawn, you were a good little pawn, but now your time has come and you must charge undefended into enemy territory taking as many with you as you go, now don't weep, think of the valour, the glory!, the cause!, your brothers dest ...[text shortened]... s you, where you can feast and fight and be attended upon by pretty lady pawns forever more'.
Very Funny
Still Laughing LOL
In one of the posts, I was talking about he said I say * ( I forget what) before I move my knights. I thought it was weird but I guess not.
The very next post said " That is weird."
LOL
I'm not kidding but you really should LISTEN to your pieces,
especially before making pawn moves.
A couple of months ago I saw two strong players going over
a 1600 player's game in the pub.
He had just played a pawn move that turned his QB into a lump
of useless wood.
"Nice move. Did you ask your Queen's Bishop about that move before
you played it?"
This is the Rowson influence seeping through to other players.
Rowson in is print saying he talks and LISTENS to his pieces.
I've started listening.
Before this game I heard my a8 Rook say:
"Oh No, It's this nutter, he always sacs me just so he can gain
time to castle to play his little tricks."
This PGN could not be parsed.
[Event "RHP Blitz rated"]
[Site "www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.10.7"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Carl Corey"]
[Black "greenpawn34"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. f2-f4 d7-d5 3. Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4 4. Bf1-e2 Bg4xf3 5. Be2xf3 d5xe4 6. Bf3xe4 Ng8-f6 7. Be4xb7 Bf8-c5 8. d2-d3 O-O 9. Bb7xa8 e5xf4 10. Bc1xf4 Rf8-e8 11. Ba8-e4 Nf6xe4 12. d3xe4 Re8xe4 13. Qd1-e2 Re4xe2 14.Kxe2 Qd4
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e4'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e5'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-f4'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-d5'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-f3'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-g4'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e2'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-f6'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-c5'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-d3'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e8'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e4'
- line 9: Unrecognised token '-e2'
- move 1 could not be played: Invalid PGN : Error converting move e2
[Event "RHP Blitz rated"]
[Site "www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.10.7"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Carl Corey"]
[Black "greenpawn34"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. f2-f4 d7-d5 3. Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4 4. Bf1-e2 Bg4xf3 5. Be2xf3 d5xe4 6. Bf3xe4 Ng8-f6 7. Be4xb7 Bf8-c5 8. d2-d3 O-O 9. Bb7xa8 e5xf4 10. Bc1xf4 Rf8-e8 11. Ba8-e4 Nf6xe4 12. d3xe4 Re8xe4 13. Qd1-e2 Re4xe2 14.Kxe2 Qd4
If you look at it White is was forced to shed his Queen.
I went to win without any drama.
I'm afraid to say that I've looked upon my a1 and a8 Rooks
as developing bait.
Originally posted by greenpawn34I do listen gp34 pal. When I play with the Black my whitesquared Joker sings "I 'm a weaver an Ayrshire weaver
I'm not kidding but you really should LISTEN to your pieces,
especially before making pawn moves.
A couple of months ago I saw two strong players going over
a 1600 player's game in the pub.
He had just played a pawn move that turned his QB into a lump
of useless wood.
"Nice move. Did you ask your Queen's Bishop about that move before
you pla ...[text shortened]... d to say that I've looked upon my a1 and a8 Rooks
as developing bait.
Tae Stewarton toon my way I made
With then intention tae buy some clothin
For I 'm a rash and a rovin blade" and he goes sideways always feelin dry;
Originally posted by black beetlefor a greek dude you sure,' huv a way wae the lawlans Scots dialect, (some would argue language, it being as distinct from English as say some of the closely related European languages), one wonders how was this acquired? a knowledge of these ancient drinking tunes, it boggles the imagination?
I do listen gp34 pal. When I play with the Black my whitesquared Joker sings "I 'm a weaver an Ayrshire weaver
Tae Stewarton toon my way I made
With then intention tae buy some clothin
For I 'm a rash and a rovin blade" and he goes sideways always feelin dry;